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Sorry to bug you guys, but need a dupe check

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by NSXdreamer, Feb 11, 2004.

  1. NSXdreamer

    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    Sorry to bug you guys, but need a dupe check

    After much effort, I finally traded (correcition, meant to say going to trade for) for a .07 valor (not with member of this fourm), but not sure if its a dupe. Can someone check this for me since the database is not public?

    Arkaine's Valor
    Balrog Skin
    'Pul'
    Defense: 1709
    Required Strength: 165
    Required Level: 85
    Indestructible
    Item Version: Expansion
    Item Level: 99
    Fingerprint: 0x35f2e97a
    +230% Enhanced Defense
    Fire Resist +50%
    30% Faster Hit Recovery
    +2 to All Skill Levels
    +170 to Life (Based on Character Level)
    +212 to Vitality (Based on Character Level)
    Socketed (1: 1 used)

    Thanks a lot! :)
     
  2. Crazy Runner Guy

    Crazy Runner Guy IncGamers Member

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    Quick thoughts:

    Someone help me out here since I never played v1.07, but wouldn't ilvl 99 mean hell baal, and in v1.07, don't you have to get TC's higher than 66 or so from racks?, thus not being able to get it form baal? And if you do that, wouldn't the ilvl be much lower?

    It looks sketchy to me...

    crg
     
  3. Kaysaar

    Kaysaar IncGamers Member

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    The ilvl of 99 means 1.10 Baal. I believe that Baal was only 95 before 1.10, and that ilvl 99 used to be a telltale sign that the item was a fake (If I recall correctly).
     
  4. chaos

    chaos Diablo: IncGamers Member

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    omg h4x.

    No ilvl 99 valor possible in .07, i believe.

    Enhanced defence is wrong, too. What did you pay? I'm curious...

    <trivia> There was one legit .08 valor found (yes, not racked) by a member long ago. He socketed it, and guess what? With a Pul..... :lol:

    * edit *

    me = n00b

    of course with a Pul its 230ED. :teeth:
     
  5. cloudstride

    cloudstride Banned

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    OT, but shouldn't you check for dupe-ness before completing the trade, especially with older version valors and those things that were duped most commonly? :scratch:

    edit: chaos, this one's also socketed with a pul, which is why the defense is "wrong". :p

    edit again: I see you noticed it just now :)
     
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    Ti-Ben IncGamers Member

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    I smell hacks, on this. Unless some racks spawns with ilvl 99 on them... in 1.07 of course. :scratch:
     
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    haha who was it that socketed there valor with a pul? hythopian shade? i guess hes not the only one. :p

    i found 08 arreats :cool:
     
  8. NSXdreamer

    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    no it's not completed, that's why I'm asking here. Oh well, no trade I guess. :(

    edit: ahh correction, meant to say "have a chance to trade for" in the original thread, sorry for the confusion. :eek:
     
  9. TrenShadow

    TrenShadow IncGamers Member

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    It's not listed in the SPTN database.

    However... the iLvl of 99 makes me somewhat suspicious of its origin.

    Might I suggest that you get a dupe check done before you actually go through the trouble of trading such high end items :)

    -edit- so much happens when you disappear to check SPTN database :p
     
  10. cloudstride

    cloudstride Banned

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    according to dii.net, the 1.08 arkaine's looked like this:
    +200% Enhanced Defense, +2.5 Vitality per Clvl, Faster Hit Recovery (30), +2 Life per Clvl, +2 to All Skills, Indestructible, +50% Fire Resistance

    which is coincidentally exactly what you have there. Maybe the person just got the item version wrong?

    if racking was still common in 1.08, ignore this post
     
  11. Shivan

    Shivan IncGamers Member

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    .07 and .08 valors were the same :p

    nsxdreamer: email it to me [email protected]

    i have a feeling my database atm is more comprehensive than the sptn one (only a hunch) , and it'll be much easier for me to run a test for the dupe detector with the actual item than trying to find a match manualy :)
     
  12. NSXdreamer

    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    ahh correction, meant to say "have a chance to trade for" in the original thread, sorry for the confusion. :eek:
     
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    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    ".07 and .08 valors were the same :p

    nsxdreamer: email it to me [email protected]

    i have a feeling my database atm is more comprehensive than the sptn one (only a hunch) , and it'll be much easier for me to run a test for the dupe detector with the actual item than trying to find a match manualy"


    You mean the actual item on a mule? Since it's a ilvl 99, dosen't that mean it's a fake anyway? Besides I haven't done the trade yet, was just doing the pre check. :)
     
  14. Shivan

    Shivan IncGamers Member

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    there are areas in .07 which are lvl 99
    how do i know? because i have a small charm which mattis sent me which is ilvl 99

    hence i'm pretty sure there are racks which are also lvl99
     
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    moi IncGamers Member

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    yes, the racks go up to lvl 99 in 1.07; these are racks in the 3 levels of nilathak's temple, iirc.
     
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    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    So it may be legit then? Damn what am I gonna do, what am I gonna do, what am I gonna do, what am I gonna do, what am I gonna do, what am I gonna do, what am I gonna do, what am I gonna do...

    If I do trade for it, Shivan I will send it to you to check.
     
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    wildjinn IncGamers Member

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    One way to look at it is this: if this has a high level of being a good item and is going to be for personal use, and you make the trade, you have given the item extremely high value by what you've traded for it. While this is obviously not great logic, you'll still have it for your own use and it will be extremely valuable.

    HOWEVER, this argument does not excuse the horrible people that dupe and ruin trading by devaluing many items by breaking trust and sheer volumetric inflow. Just an argument in case you decide to trade for it.
     
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    strijdje IncGamers Member

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    i agree with djinn here, if u dont know if its a dupe, i mean, it IS possible to rack a ilvl99 1.07 valor, u did give alot of your own , i assume legit, items for it, in tihs way you would consider it legit because you traded alot for it.. you cna use it for your own use but i advice not to trade it after you got it... if it turns out to be a dupe, then u will be flamed upon like a marshmellow near a campfire...

    However this is just my opinion, just see what u do with the valor,

    good luck with your trade

    robin
     
  19. chaos

    chaos Diablo: IncGamers Member

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    Ergh guess i was wrong...

    Yup bonerman (if you still can see this ;) ), gg hyshade and puls. :lol:

    One thing bout 07/08 valors though, one just came up some days back remember? That one had 170ED, other than that look fine, though Hakai mentioned half of the fingerprint matched an existing dupe, and it wasn't impossible to alter the fingerprint. Its a far stretch, but there could be something about valors now... ???
     
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    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    Oh I'm not gonna trade it again, I'm using it for my fury wolf. Higher life than bears, baby! :D

    Yes I remember that one, not long ago. I doubt more than a few people is capable of alter the stuff in character file without mess up the checksum though. But anyway if I decide to go for it, it's gonna stops here as I won't trade it again.
     

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