Sorc's the only good MF class?
I've come to a stumbling block here; it just seems to me like the sorc is THE only char for MF'ing as quickly as possible. After a year's hiatus, I recently started up an amazon from scratch and discovered ATMA ( :thumbsup: crazy program for Sp!!). I got to hell meph ok (buriza and kuko helped a ton, though it took me like 300+ nightmare meph runs to get those) and farmed him for a while, but just realized that the amazon is certainly not a great MF'er at all. I could kill meph just fine but it would take me around a minute on /players 1, this is with max guided arrow and a buriza and a fat valkyrie sitting there while I just shoot the stuffing out of him.
Meph's blocking would seem to prevent at least the amazon from killing him very quickly, so I then decided to start up a blizzard sorc because of its good damage and cold mastery to screw up his resists. Now an entire run takes 40 seconds (from entering the world to entering the world again after killing meph), whereas before just the meph killing took 1 minute (and the rest would be another 30 seconds or so due to only being able to use tele charges across the moat).
The sorc turned out to be amazingly better than the amazon - I could do the run faster (teleport all the way + kill meph fast), with more MF, and with less upkeep time (no need to buy arrows or repair teleport charges, although I do use a lower resist wand that needs a repair every 67 runs).
This kind of depresses me, because my goal is to get all the items, and it would seem that only the sorceress accomplishes the goal the fastest. Is this true? Are there other good characters out there that can do specific runs faster or better? I'm thinking like perhaps a barb would be able to harvest Thresh Socket the best, because you can get a waypoint next to him and you can always item find his body, and with good enough weapons you could frenzy/double swing him to a sliver then switch to gulls/babas, so every run would be 1.4 runs if you had a 40% find item. This might be able to do it more efficiently than the sorc, but of course thresh doesn't drop as well as pindle.
Any other ideas? I could of course just relax and play a character more for fun and do slower runs, but that's not my goal right now. It just kind of makes me feel like the game is only for sorcs, while the rest of the characters are like sidebars for fun once you got all the items : (
I've come to a stumbling block here; it just seems to me like the sorc is THE only char for MF'ing as quickly as possible. After a year's hiatus, I recently started up an amazon from scratch and discovered ATMA ( :thumbsup: crazy program for Sp!!). I got to hell meph ok (buriza and kuko helped a ton, though it took me like 300+ nightmare meph runs to get those) and farmed him for a while, but just realized that the amazon is certainly not a great MF'er at all. I could kill meph just fine but it would take me around a minute on /players 1, this is with max guided arrow and a buriza and a fat valkyrie sitting there while I just shoot the stuffing out of him.
Meph's blocking would seem to prevent at least the amazon from killing him very quickly, so I then decided to start up a blizzard sorc because of its good damage and cold mastery to screw up his resists. Now an entire run takes 40 seconds (from entering the world to entering the world again after killing meph), whereas before just the meph killing took 1 minute (and the rest would be another 30 seconds or so due to only being able to use tele charges across the moat).
The sorc turned out to be amazingly better than the amazon - I could do the run faster (teleport all the way + kill meph fast), with more MF, and with less upkeep time (no need to buy arrows or repair teleport charges, although I do use a lower resist wand that needs a repair every 67 runs).
This kind of depresses me, because my goal is to get all the items, and it would seem that only the sorceress accomplishes the goal the fastest. Is this true? Are there other good characters out there that can do specific runs faster or better? I'm thinking like perhaps a barb would be able to harvest Thresh Socket the best, because you can get a waypoint next to him and you can always item find his body, and with good enough weapons you could frenzy/double swing him to a sliver then switch to gulls/babas, so every run would be 1.4 runs if you had a 40% find item. This might be able to do it more efficiently than the sorc, but of course thresh doesn't drop as well as pindle.
Any other ideas? I could of course just relax and play a character more for fun and do slower runs, but that's not my goal right now. It just kind of makes me feel like the game is only for sorcs, while the rest of the characters are like sidebars for fun once you got all the items : (
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