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something i've always wondered

Discussion in 'Druid' started by TerminalVertigo, Sep 2, 2006.

  1. TerminalVertigo

    TerminalVertigo IncGamers Member

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    something i've always wondered

    at what point do ss gcs stop being worth using?

    ill explain.

    you can go 37x small 32020s

    or

    9 45sslifers and 10 32020s

    each shape shift grand charm you use helps the others, and the more you have the better, as they all work off each other (im fairly certain on this)

    what set of charms gives you the best ar life and dmg?

    all 320s?
    all ss lifers?
    6 ss lifers and 320s?
    3ss lifers and 320s?

    can someone test this and debunk it once and for all?

    gear:

    ebotdz
    fort
    highlords
    two p ravens
    gores
    jalals
    dungos
    storm shield

    everyone who tests this come back with different numbers.

    lets solve this once and for all.
     
  2. naturebunns

    naturebunns IncGamers Member

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    I believe it may depend somewhat on your gear, so I'm not sure there's an absolute?
     
  3. TerminalVertigo

    TerminalVertigo IncGamers Member

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    thats why i listed the most common gear to do the test with.
     
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    ToThePoint IncGamers Member

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    You just set up an equality.
    base +extra shapeskillers vs base+removed skillers+replaced scs
    that way you can figure out which gives the best for each of the 4 figures you gave.
    Usually you wont get 1 setup being better in all areas than and other and how to balance them is often just down to preference whether you prefer ar or life or whatever.
     
  5. inkanddagger

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    you didn't include base stats, so I am setting this up as a common 96 str jalals forti build with dext for max block and the rest to vita to start off with:

    lvl 91 druid

    with 45 life shifters, 10 3/20/20, and 30ed/9dext/7fhr jalals:



    2754- 8584 dmg
    20016 ar
    9178 life


    with 6 45 lifers, rest 3/20/20s

    2659-8674 dmg
    20679 ar
    9223 life


    with 3 45 life shifters, rest 3/20/20s

    2565-8737 dmg
    21104 ar
    9255 life


    with 1 45 life shifter, rest 32020s
    2502-8763 dmg
    21256 ar
    9268 life


    with all 32020s
    2471-8772 dmg
    21291 ar
    9273 life


    conclusion - no combination of shifters to 32020s is better than using all 32020s.
     
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    This doesnt count in for Rabies I assume, since the SS-skillers should be more beneficial in that case or?
     
  7. inkanddagger

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    yes, shape lifers > r/f, but all 32020s > pure fury.

    personally I would have some 138/45 grands in there, since we are purely talkign about perfect charms.
     
  8. Kosmos

    Kosmos IncGamers Member

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    as you can see the damage is better using shapeskillers. The difference in damage wil be much bigger using a Grief instead of Botd.

    Also the higher you get in lvl the more points you can put in vita. So at lvl 99 your life will be higher using shaperskillers.

    Only thing that is better with 32020's is ar really and thats just slightly.

    Conclusion. For a grief fury druid(wich is the best weapon for a fury druid) shapeskillers is the way to go.
     
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    I will edit to lvl 99 and grief to check that out. i knw the avg dmg was better, but it seemed so small that ar/life would make up?

    dmg with 15% sup + 400 griefp

    37 32020s: 5694 -7387 dmg

    10 45 life shifters with 10 32020s: 6452-7038
     

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