some V/T questions

[mainaman]

EAst Ladder.

nice me too
maybe we can do some BvC vs V/t duels if you like

/w * mainaman

 

[Sechler]

nice me too
maybe we can do some BvC vs V/t duels if you like

/w * mainaman

I'm game :wink2: , allthough I probably won't be on till sunday, so I'll try to whisp u over the next few times i log on.

 

[morotsjos]

a good BvC with nice stack and widowmaker will take any v/t

nah, only the absolute top barbs can kill good v/t:s. the rest dont stand a chance. widow is totally useless since any good smiter/vt will play offensive.

 

[morotsjos]

Ok it'd be appreiated to whoever answered these best as possible =D thx

1) Eexile vortex w/ res or HOZ? which is all in all better
2) COH for armor and COA for helm?
3) Are my skills: 20 smite, 20 holy shield, 20 fanat, rest mix between FOH+holyshock+conviction?
4) Pcombats or offensives? big difference for the price?
5) would e-treks be good for boots consideirng most conditions from gores don't work?
6) Maras for ammy?
7) What are a V/T's main problem characters?
Lastly..8) Now since you are using both fanat and conviction auras in conjunction with 2 main skills (smite and FOH...possibly charge) how does your key setup work since you can only have 1 skill on left click? or is there a way to have FOH and smite switch on left skill tab for quick changes. I really need this explained =p

1. general rule; exile sacred targe vs melee and zaka vs casters. forget vortex, it's crap. consider stormshield for dr.
2. enigma and shako. consider coa for dr.
3. yes. leave conviction at base.
4. pcombats. adds more smite damage, foh damage, charge damage and defense.
5. waterwalk >>>> treks by far.
6. maras usually beat most rare/crafted pally amus so yes. consider highlords vs casters where you charge alot though.
7. hammerdins by far. good necs/druids might cause trouble as well.
8. read pravdas guide. you can have more than 1 skill on left-click.

 

[hardnfast]

nah, only the absolute top barbs can kill good v/t:s. the rest dont stand a chance. widow is totally useless since any good smiter/vt will play offensive.

Agreed, I was beaten 10-0 vs a t/v yesterday. I've only just started playing with a bvc and had been having allot of success vs most other classes up until then.

I tried a few different strategies but it boiled down to I couldn't find a balance between negating the FoH and keeping enough AR / DR / manoeuvrability. He had a inventory full of pcombats and interestingly used exile, in this case it added to my AR problems.

 

[mainaman]

Agreed, I was beaten 10-0 vs a t/v yesterday. I've only just started playing with a bvc and had been having allot of success vs most other classes up until then.

I tried a few different strategies but it boiled down to I couldn't find a balance between negating the FoH and keeping enough AR / DR / manoeuvrability. He had a inventory full of pcombats and interestingly used exile, in this case it added to my AR problems.

have you tryed using dooms ?
i havent met such a good v/t to require such measures but may be its a thing to try

 

[hardnfast]

have you tryed using dooms ?
i havent met such a good v/t to require such measures but may be its a thing to try

Thats sounds like a good idea, however It will take me abit more play time to make / buy a couple of doom zerkers.

 

[IEqualsGood]

I'll be glad to play around with duels and help you guys test when I'm setup and used to the build...it'll be like 2 weeks or so.

 

[morotsjos]

Agreed, I was beaten 10-0 vs a t/v yesterday. I've only just started playing with a bvc and had been having allot of success vs most other classes up until then.

I tried a few different strategies but it boiled down to I couldn't find a balance between negating the FoH and keeping enough AR / DR / manoeuvrability. He had a inventory full of pcombats and interestingly used exile, in this case it added to my AR problems.

the best way to stack res is by far to use life/11 lightres scs. i use 5 on my barb permanently, and i'd keep a few more in stash if i had room. pfft.

 

[SicHalo]

yeah v/t are tough before i started equiping my barb properly i lost alot of consecutive games vs t/v or v/t.

This is a fight where skill alone is not good enough u need the skill + the correct equipment not one or the other or u will still likly suffer the same faith.

Also the Widowmaker does help alot i found, cuz i used to go offscreen and spam GAs till they charged me then switch.

 

[mainaman]

yeah v/t are tough before i started equiping my barb properly i lost alot of consecutive games vs t/v or v/t.

This is a fight where skill alone is not good enough u need the skill + the correct equipment not one or the other or u will still likly suffer the same faith.

Also the Widowmaker does help alot i found, cuz i used to go offscreen and spam GAs till they charged me then switch.

yes this is a tactics i use too
i use the widowmaker to just make them come try smite me because i stack high.
I use 4 ort armor, otr kiras, tgod, fare prebuf -ehich comes to 120+100+60+85 =365 lr which is high enough to overcome the conviction of most of the v/t's out there

 

[morotsjos]

yeah v/t are tough before i started equiping my barb properly i lost alot of consecutive games vs t/v or v/t.

This is a fight where skill alone is not good enough u need the skill + the correct equipment not one or the other or u will still likly suffer the same faith.

Also the Widowmaker does help alot i found, cuz i used to go offscreen and spam GAs till they charged me then switch.

widow is sometimes helpful vs noobs who only shift-smites/fohs. it is of no use whatsoever vs good v/t:s since they wont give you time to fire a single arrow.

 

[hardnfast]

widow is sometimes helpful vs noobs who only shift-smites/fohs. it is of no use whatsoever vs good v/t:s since they wont give you time to fire a single arrow.

Widow was not a good tactic against this T/V, a soon as it was out bang charge, smite. I'm thinking ort kira's, fortitude and thunder gods. This will leave me with no dr but big hits when I land them and a negated FoH.

I'l give it a try and see...

 

[mainaman]

im about to start dueling in a tourney , but the rules are one can use sorb but not sorb and stack, also high stack is not allowed.
So my question is is there a way to duel v/t or pure foher for that matter with anigma and tgod on?
Probably a good way to do is tele zerk? i mean hopefully the zerks will land on and thus 2-3 will take care of bussiness, since ususlly 3-4 foh are good enough to take out any bvc (xcept the pure vita ones)
any thoughts on that ould be apreciated .

 

[moonlike]

im about to start dueling in a tourney , but the rules are one can use sorb but not sorb and stack, also high stack is not allowed.
So my question is is there a way to duel v/t or pure foher for that matter with anigma and tgod on?
Probably a good way to do is tele zerk? i mean hopefully the zerks will land on and thus 2-3 will take care of bussiness, since ususlly 3-4 foh are good enough to take out any bvc (xcept the pure vita ones)
any thoughts on that ould be apreciated .

if i had choose which is better tgod or stack i would take stack res every day, tgod dont do nothing without res t.t

 

[mainaman]

i agree stack is best thing ,dont allow high stack though.
pretty useless rule i hope they will correct that flaw.

 

[moonlike]

hehe i want play on tourney also and there i cant use res stack/tgod also , you are from eu scld?
ups just saw ur from east t.t

 

[SicHalo]

im about to start dueling in a tourney , but the rules are one can use sorb but not sorb and stack, also high stack is not allowed.
So my question is is there a way to duel v/t or pure foher for that matter with anigma and tgod on?
Probably a good way to do is tele zerk? i mean hopefully the zerks will land on and thus 2-3 will take care of bussiness, since ususlly 3-4 foh are good enough to take out any bvc (xcept the pure vita ones)
any thoughts on that ould be apreciated .

hmm do u know how much stack they restrict you to?

Also stack>abs that 20 hard abs on tg wont do nothing or the max res if the aura is taking away ur resistance.

If i had a choice depending on how much stack ur allowed i would put enough atleast to deal with the aura i.e 150 light stack

this is one of the reasons why torneys are hard cuz without full stack a foh can kill pretty easily same for v/t cuz anyone that dont stack vs me i can whore out the foh and for a barb this can be a difficult fight without full stack.


Edit

Is there no build regulations, cuz i think foh and chars like this can be very overpowering vs other chars that are badly prepared, i.e no stack res etc.

 

[mainaman]

hmm do u know how much stack they restrict you to?

Also stack>abs that 20 hard abs on tg wont do nothing or the max res if the aura is taking away ur resistance.

If i had a choice depending on how much stack ur allowed i would put enough atleast to deal with the aura i.e 150 light stack

this is one of the reasons why torneys are hard cuz without full stack a foh can kill pretty easily same for v/t cuz anyone that dont stack vs me i can whore out the foh and for a barb this can be a difficult fight without full stack.


Edit

Is there no build regulations, cuz i think foh and chars like this can be very overpowering vs other chars that are badly prepared, i.e no stack res etc.

there is no specified max stack in the rules ( i have to admit some of the rules for that tourney are pretty lousy written)
i dont believe there is a char regulation rule
but as i raised the question to the person who runs the tourney , he saw the flaw in the rules and now he is consulting some xperienxced pvp players ,as he calls them , so maybe they will fix the flaw.