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Socket CtA & HotO

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by finalorder, May 22, 2008.

  1. finalorder

    finalorder IncGamers Member

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    Socket CtA & HotO

    Hello,

    What are the normal items used for the runewords CtA and HotO? Just wondering what other people generally build them in. For background, I am building a Hammerdin (with 1 pt smite uber killer) and will have base str between 80-120.

    Thanks,

    finalorder
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    For hoto- always a flail

    CTA- a flail or crystal sword(depending what you think looks the coolest)

    Some people who want a melee weapon on switch build cta in higher damage weapons but it is pretty uncommon
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    I hear people can pay sick amounts of runes for a high CtA made in an ethereal Crystal Sword. I just happened to make one 5-6-1 in an eth CS, but not yet gotten around to selling it :azn:
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    Yeah usually eth version is worth little more, but if you want to be cool make hoto in scourge for sexy no weapon look.
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    ahh thank you for the answers. Why is eth crystal sword more? Provide any benefit? Do people make them in the normal items because they dont have to worry about str requirements?
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    Well, it looks cool, and it's also rare.
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    In the SPF, beta CtA are made in War Scepter's from 1.07 to get a free HS and goodies like redemption, vigour, cleansing

    eg mine
    Code:
    Call to Arms War Scepter
    'AmnRalMalIstOhm'
    One-Hand Damage: 37 to 63
    Durability: 70 of 70
    Required Strength: 55
    Required Level: 57
    Mace Class - Fastest Attack Speed
    Item Level: 87
    Fingerprint: 0x159aeb6
    +274% Enhanced Damage
    Adds 5-30 fire damage
    7% Life stolen per hit
    Replenish Life +12
    30% Better Chance of Getting Magic Items
    40% Increased Attack Speed
    [B]+12 to Battle Cry
    +12 to Battle Orders
    +11 to Battle Command
    +2 to Vigor (Paladin Only)[/B]
    +1 to Holy Shock (Paladin Only)
    [B]+2 to Holy Shield (Paladin Only)[/B]
    Prevent Monster Heal
    150% Damage to Undead
    +2 to All Skill Levels
    Socketed (5: 5 used)
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    Dang, how did you get +12 and +11 to the BO, BC and BC? Thought it was max of 6-6-4?
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    I suspect it's a pre-1.10 CtA. Notice the +2 all skills!
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    He did say beta cta, so yes, that's pre-1.10 since it's the 1.10s beta.
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    ahhh ok.. I wasnt playing then (i played when d2 first came out, quit, just came back hehe) ok thanks
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    I think at least one reason that CtA is made in CS instead of a Flail is that when you switch weapons you see a different graphic, so you know the switch has taken place, and you're not trying to take out the minions of hell with a CtA caster.

    As for HotO, it is possible to make in in a caudecus, or other scepter, is it not? I'd actually like to know because I've found a few that would be nice for Hdin/uber smiter.
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    No scepters for Hoto, it only can be made in flails for 1-h weapons.
    Ethereal costs more because of looks and lower str/dex requirements though those aren't usually a problem.
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    If someone make a CtA in a +3 hs scepter, would the bonus to holy shield add up? Cause last night I tried it, and I didnt see any difference in defense and ctb bonus after using either +3hs cta or normal cta. My friend said this is due to 1.11b patch. Is it true?
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    Your friend is talking out of a body part this forum blanks out

    My +2HS CtA gets bonuses from the +skills and the +HS, perhaps he had a spirit instead of a HoZ
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    Well, HS has hard diminishing returns when it comes to blocking. So if the difference between 3HS CtA + Spirit and HotO + Spirit doesn't give any more blocking, then there would be no difference, as Defense (and possibly smite damage, don't remember) can't be prebuffed, but is based off current skill level.



     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    Oh, I didn't know that. What about HS duration ?



     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    @helvete: my hammerdin casts a lvl15 HS with no hard points in it, so how does that work, I know my CTB and defense skyrocket when I cast it, and then weapon switch to Hoto/spirit
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    Hi again. I experimented with both ctas. Here is how it was done:

    1. Start fresh, no hs.
    2. Cast hs with 3hs CTA
    3. Take note of defense.
    4. Ask a friend to kill you, so you can start fresh again
    5. Take body, cast hs without 3hs CTA but keep other gear.
    6. Take note of defense.

    3hs CTA yeild higher defense, I did'nt take note of ctb though but it should be higher too. However I read in a guide in another forum that smite damage is not increased by hs prebuff.

    Conclusion: 3hs scepter works. Obviously. A guy in another site did 1366rerolls just to get a perf eth 3hs cta lol.
     
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    Re: Socket CtA & HotO

    Dupan dupan dupan dupan dupan dupan dupan dupan dupan.

    There is no way in the world he could have gotten 1366 Mal's, Ist's and Ohm's by legit means.
     

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