So happy I could cry After more than 10000 runs...the first 1000 of which netted me #1, I finally, finally, finally bagged Ber #2!!!!!!!!!:jig: 'You gotta be kidding me!' I said...I was rerolling my LK map for the first time in 4 months and on roll #5 I got a campfire right next to the wp. So why not have a peak in that chest before looking for camp #2? Damn glad to see ya buddy! :jig: Yet another anecdote to attest to the fact that you find what you want when you set out to do something else...:jig: While exact run totals are unknown, all I can say is that I was somewhere between 10,000 and 20,000 since the 1.13c release. Bagged about 40-50 runes from pul to ber. :jig: Perhaps in a fit of sadism, I have abstained from using RWM so no fort/grief/spirit/cta/hoto/bramble etc despite having found enough runes to make several of them. Nor could I bring myself to cube vex or higher to get that ber...installation of RWM to follow with a nice zapping stick to start the runewords...:jig: ...and on to the bail grail! Jig anyone?