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Snitch Program in School

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by MixedVariety, Apr 26, 2005.

  1. MixedVariety

    MixedVariety Banned

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    Snitch Program in School

    What do you think of this?

    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=11&u=/ap/20050426/ap_on_re_us/school_tattling

    In a nutshell, some schools are offering 'prizes' to students who tattle on others, regarding things like drugs, concealed weapons and the like.

    I see this not working, even backfiring, for three reasons:

    1. Most kids won't tell on other kids.
    2. Some kids might make stuff up just to get prizes, or for revenge.
    3. If the tattler is identified, there will be violent repercussions in some cases.

    Your thoughts?
     
  2. {KOW}Spazed

    {KOW}Spazed Banned

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    Give harsh punishment if you accuse someone and they can't prove it.

    Make it a private ordeal, let them send an email from home and give the "reward" outside of school.
     
  3. Stoutwood

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    So I can't get the $500 if they are planning to say, beat a kid to death with a baseball bat, or gut him with a knife?
     
  4. Garbad_the_Weak

    Garbad_the_Weak IncGamers Member

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    Those same three reasons exist for adults and generally the system works. I imagine it will help somewhat, but not have a huge effect. And even one columbine stopped is worth it.

    Garbad
     
  5. MixedVariety

    MixedVariety Banned

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    Those reasons do exist for adults, but are normally viewed differently by kids. High school kids, in general, have an overblown sense of youth loyalty, meaning that in a lot of cases they don't realize (or don't care) that blowing someone's cover could actually be helping, rather than hindering, the perpetrator.

    Of course one school killing stopped is worth it. But I still don't think it's going to work.
     
  6. Garbad_the_Weak

    Garbad_the_Weak IncGamers Member

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    Ok, so worst case the kids ignore the program and things stay the same. Best case a tragedy is prevented. Whats the problem?

    Garbad
     
  7. Isolde212

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    This totally goes against the schoolyard code.
     
  8. Amra

    Amra IncGamers Member

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    Agreed.

    Putting the responsibility on the kids is so wrong. They have enough to worry about. This smacks of a larger problem with the schools.
     
  9. Garbad_the_Weak

    Garbad_the_Weak IncGamers Member

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    Cops deal with both of those every day. They can handle screening out setups or reward seekers, I am sure. They also do a good job of hiding informants or protecting them if needed.

    Garbad
     
  10. Matt

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    If someone tells on someone else, chances are very high that it wont be long till everyone involved knows who told on who. The cops cant stop that kind of thing, its not like the kids are going into the witness protection program, they'll still go to school the next day. Kids will SURELY know who knew what, and figure out on their own, or from other kids who told, its just not going to stay secret.

    I think its a bad idea not because it wont be succesful, but because what it prevents (almost all small time stuff, its not like kids planning to go on a school shooting tell everyone weeks ahead of time...) is not worth it, because it will lead to a number of other things:
    Mistrust among students
    Revenge
    Stress on kids, who feel its their responsibility to protect themselves, siblings in the school, friends and other students, you cant put the job of keeping violence and other mischief out of school in the hands of the students.

    -Matt
     
  11. Spawn of God

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    o look ur doing druggs!
    *tells a teacher*

    the next day in the news:

    HEADLINE: highschooler brutally decapitated
     
  12. jimmyboy

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    We can make adjustments to correct deficiencies -
    1. enlarge the reward.
    2. no reward until the perp is convicted.
    3. don't identify the tattler. since the school is not a court, there is no constitutional right to confront the accuse.
     
  13. Module88

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    Well I'll tell you, it sure as hell works at my school. Drugs have been consficated, and the idiot who called the bomb threat in at our school got caught because of it. :Shrug: I'm not sure how the system works (as I've never had a need to use it), but you SHOULD get the reward after the person has been caught. Giving them money beforehand is just stoopid.
     
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    some one did that to me adn i was clean


    wanan hunt them down and beat them
     
  15. CyberHawk

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    All I know is that..people woulda got rich off me. Damn those tattle-tellers.

    But just mentioning it..woulda stopped alot of "little" stuff from happening. But only made the columbine stuff a little more in depth planning. But who knows..I'm all for change on Tuesdays and Thursdays. :teeth:
     
  16. axeil

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    Just when I thought the American Educational System couldn't get any stupider...
     
  17. DrunkPotHead

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    Will not work. If I found out who tattled on me, they would be in a world of trouble.
     
  18. Donkey Button

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    I wouldn't think twice about spitting on someone's car that I know was the car of a tattle tale.

    I really hope this backfires big time.
     
  19. Ash Housewares

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    my thoughts?

    *thinks*

    hmmmm

    uh oh....

    oooooooooooo :drool:
     
  20. Raistlin Majere

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    Spitting? I think they would do far worse.

    I have been falsly accused of at school before, I was so insulted that I got suspended on false hearsay that I chewed out the principal. There are few things that piss me off more than being accused of something that I did not do. I even had witnessess on my side.

    And yes, I did find out who made up crap on me. And yes, they did suffer. When it comes to payback, I am utterly ruthless.
     

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