Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama ifra

LegendBJJ

LegendBJJ

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Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

Hi,

I have made a Bowazon/Java following TienJe's guide and i LOVE playing her.
But i have problems with Smiters and Windies in PVP
Smiters usually just run up to me, i shoot GA switch to titan and LF him. But they just seem to ignore it and run up and 1 hit kill me...
Also Windies just tele on top of me and im dead...
What should i do?
Vs Windies i MA untill his minions are away and then i GA him. When he tele on top of me i run in titan switch. But still i just die...

This is my char:
Amdi
Lvl 90

120/45 Tiara
Cats Eye
Fortitude
Faith fana 14
Ravenfrost
Crafted ring: AR, Poison, Dex, Str, Mana, Life
War Travs
Nosferatus Coil
Crafted gloves: 20 IAS, 2 PnM, Dex, Str, Mana, Res
Eth Upg Titan
SS with 40/15 Jewel

17/14/8 Anni
17/20 Torch
29 3% frw scs
11 20Life scs
2 3/20/20 scs
3 3/20/3 scs
 
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zdawnz

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

try 1 LF on windy kills all minions MA since it probably takes more than 1 shot imo wastes a bit of time... also have you ever tried sticking on a enigma it also helps with distance and the windys telestomp...
 
TienJe

TienJe

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

zdawnz said:
try 1 LF on windy kills all minions MA since it probably takes more than 1 shot imo wastes a bit of time... also have you ever tried sticking on a enigma it also helps with distance and the windys telestomp...
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*slaps forehead*



 
TienJe

TienJe

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

there isn't really any more information that i can give besides what was already posted in the guide. it sounds like you just have to work on your timing.

it seems to me like you're trying to react to the smiter/druid and run away after you see them pounce on you, which will usually get you killed. the point of "walking" is to be already moving the moment the druid/smiter tries to nado/smite you.

watch some of the videos in the guide to get a better idea about what to do.
 
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thepandafactor

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

from personal experience, I use multishot against druids to kill minions, then do whatever you usually do to kill them before they recast. Against smiters, I use lightning bolt but I can't win against the better ones no matter what basically.
 
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uptoolayte

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

A smiter's charge will easily catch up to your slow FCR teleport if you use Enigma. the only thing I've even been able to do with smiters is switch to my shield and walk back to town while ther charge is deflecting off of me.
 
LegendBJJ

LegendBJJ

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

uptoolayte said:
A smiter's charge will easily catch up to your slow FCR teleport if you use Enigma. the only thing I've even been able to do with smiters is switch to my shield and walk back to town while ther charge is deflecting off of me.
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I dont use Enigma and i dont walk back into town before either me or my opponent are dead.


 
Kripps

Kripps

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

Knockback together with stormshield and a titans usually gives me enough time to shoot two or more arrows towards any smiter/charger. When you're using the stormshield they really can't do anything against you as you block/evade most hits.
 
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uptoolayte

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

LegendBJJ said:
I dont use Enigma and i dont walk back into town before either me or my opponent are dead.
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I was referring to the suggestion to use an enigma, not saying you used it. I walk into town because I know close quarters with a smiter is a lost battle so why even try?



 
NASE

NASE

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

@ uptoolayte: like totally not.

Kripps said:
Knockback together with stormshield and a titans usually gives me enough time to shoot two or more arrows towards any smiter/charger. When you're using the stormshield they really can't do anything against you as you block/evade most hits.
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block/evade/high frw is the key. If played correct, you have a fair chance versus most smiter - unless the use holy freeze that is.



 
LanceD

LanceD

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

When I play against Windys, I spam multishot when they are about 3-4 screens away. By the time they reach me, most of the time the minions are dead. Once I see the druid without any minions, I try to namelock with guided right away. Spamming multi won't always kill the minions, and in that case you better get away and try to take out the minions asap. I find that having enough frw to desync is really crucial. Since nados are pretty close range, sometimes when I desync I catch druids sitting in one spot firing nados where they think I'm at, and it provides me with a short opportunity to nl guided him.

Against smiters, try to stay behind the pots on the blood moor so that they can't charge you directly. If he's charging around, shoot where he is going to be and not where he is at. And like Tienje said, work on your timing and don't let his desync fool you. Switch to titans and start moving when it looks as if he is about 2 screens away. Timing is crucial in this matchup.

Out of the 2, I find good windys a bit harder. I usually stand a decent chance against good smiters. But even if you play your best and still can't kill these guys, don't worry about it. Just keep practicing and working on your strategies against them. Even the best hybrid zons will have trouble against good windys and smiters.
 
Foolishpleazure

Foolishpleazure

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

how many points do you have currently in Dodge/Avoid/Evade?that might be part of the problem.16-19 after +skills is recomended.
 
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Allerii

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Re: Smiter and Windy problems with "hybrid" ama

No way, you cannot beat a smiter like this. D/A/E wount help much because its way too slow (8 frames acc to Kijya's guide) You cannot run away, teleport isn't the way either because of horrible cast rate you have. They just charge you up and smite you down, that is it. Only 2 frames FBR allow you to survive a bit longer but I am not sure if this is possible to obtain.
 
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