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Smiter against WW barb: help needed

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by spencert, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. spencert

    spencert IncGamers Member

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    Smiter against WW barb: help needed

    I have a V/T with max smite/fana/holy shield. My equipment:

    1) Silence Phase Blade
    2) Shako
    3) Verdungo 40/14
    4) Upp'd HoZ 193 ed
    5) Gore Riders 18x ed
    6) Wedding Band x 1
    7) Ravenfrost x 1
    8) Mara's
    9) bloodfist or dracul's

    Now I have this irrating barb that likes to challenge me. He equipment is not fantastic... i cant really remember but should be something like this:

    1) Azureworth
    2) GF or SS (cant remember)
    3) Angelic set
    4) Verdugos
    5) Kraken
    6) upp'd shadow dancer

    He enchants before the dual although i said it was BM... he answered by saying I can use anything i like. Unfortunately enchant dont do zip for me. Even with Dracul's.

    My FoH dmg is too low.. around 1200 to do much dmg. With holy shield I get around 12k defense. I stand a better chance when my friend's barb BO me. But normally I keep getting my *** kicked. :hanky:

    Pravda in his guide mention something about using a eth stone to increase holy shield defense and use defiance as aura then smite him? Havent try this yet...

    If I transfer my archon enigma and call to arms from my nec maybe i would stand a better chance but I dont want to result to that. :idea:

    Any other suggestions? Just bugs the hell outta me that I cant even beat a mediaocre WW barb. :rant:
     
  2. Mr.Glasscock

    Mr.Glasscock Banned

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    Hrm, well the easiest way to gain advantage is to toggle to walk so your block doesnt go down.

    Your defense sounds pretty good so that should prevent him from hitting you alot. Use shift+smite+ fana or defiance (watever works best) and hit him while he ww's through you. Stand your ground and dont try to follow on his ww walking/running behind him.

    If you wanna go more defensive try to charge around him alot, shift charge vigor all around him and throw foh's at him every so often. Then right when his ww ends, try to nail him with a charge and hope you hit and knock him back. If this happens then you could try to go and smite him.

    If at any time he tries to zerk you, i suggest you go toe to toe and smite him since you'll most likely hit him more than he'll hit you. When he resumes his ww's then go a screen away or so and begin the strategy in the previous paragraph.

    Hope that helps.
     
  3. Pravda

    Pravda IncGamers Member

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    12k def is low. Try to get it higher
    Always have walk on
    Use a weapon with crushing and open wounds (helps a lot)
    Shift-smite
    Don't follow the barb as he wws through you. That will get you killed
    If he wws in a triangular pattern you might have to move around a little
    Use Foh and conviction when you're not smiting
     
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    spencert IncGamers Member

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    So I can't stand toe to toe to his WW?
     
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    Diminished-Soul IncGamers Member

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    Very well put Manuel...

    If you can even though your foh damage is low try to take "pot shots" at the barb.
     
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    Mr.Glasscock Banned

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    No no, you do stand a chance ww vs your smite, but you can very easily slip up and lose massive life.

    Most of the time i do shift smite versus barb's ww. I only have about 13k def and that works ok for me. If you feel better by having for def go ahead, but i think that its just the strategy of walking and knowing when to move.

    By all means try to use smite at all times whenver he gets near you. Only go with foh conv if he tries to regen life or if he's letting psn do you damage. Even if it's a little foh damage, it can make a difference at the end.
     
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    FiNaLoRgYkKzOn Banned

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    Where's the guide?
     
  8. spencert

    spencert IncGamers Member

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    OK will try this strategy next i meet him... wish me luck :)

    Thanks alot guys for the quick input
     
  9. FiNaLoRgYkKzOn

    FiNaLoRgYkKzOn Banned

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    Where's Pravda's guide again? The sticky on top links me to a page with ppl posting"where's the guide?".
     
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    spencert IncGamers Member

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    Look at the sticky under Vindicator/Templar Guide, by Pravda
     
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    You have to click on the 1.10 pvp paladin guides and go from there
     
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    spencert IncGamers Member

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    yes yes yes..those annoyin barbs

    i remember goin against a few with my v/t

    well in my experience..ive learned that even 15k def is pretty low..this one barb had 20k ar..

    the only real strat is walkin and shift+smite and try fohin em...prob wont do that much but still take some hp off

    so..thats y im plannin on makin a smiter/charger...im prob goin to pump defiance as a synergy to reach 20-25k def

    hoped this helped

    P.S if u have low def..the only advise i have for u...is to take it in the ***(my friend told me that) :lady:
     
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    Pravda IncGamers Member

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    It also depends on how much life you and the barb have. If you choose to smite it's important that you remain stationary when you smite. Following the barb around as he whirlwinds will only get you killed. I usually smite a couple of times so open wounds kicks in before I go defensive and use foh and conviction. Works well enough for me.
     
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    spencert IncGamers Member

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    U using kingslayer or silence with barb?
     
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    kingslayer. i rarely use silence.
     
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    spencert IncGamers Member

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    Hmm... maybe i should make one... thx
     
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    what happened to the corner?

    -as in, stand in a corner and shift smite him.
     
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    Whatever just use Life Tap wand or Lower Resist Wand.

    I dont think Silence Phase Blade is necessary here... you can try to use that Unique Winged Axe... what is it called... Lacerator.

    33% of casting Amplify Dmg is no joke...

    Asia 1 and Asia 3 Ladder PvP smiters mostly use that or Iron Ward.

    I am just curious how you even let the barb catch up to you? I dont see him using Engima... Even with Teleport, it is easy for you to dodge WW too...
     
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    Etheral Lacerator is even worse. :) I have one on my guy for those loveable big boys LOL. Also if you want to go open wounds style fury zerker with gore riders is nice as well.
     

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