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Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by JohnnyBravo, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. JohnnyBravo

    JohnnyBravo IncGamers Member

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    Smitadin

    Trying to decide what my next project should be. I might take a break from my MA bowazon for a while. I've played her exclusively for a while.

    Here is my new idea.

    Smite: 20
    Holy Shield: 20
    Defiance: 20

    He will only wield a shield. (no other weapons)

    Focus my stat points on dex/str for high defence. I shouldn't get it very often with high armor and shield. Holy Shield and Defiance both boost defence.

    Is this a viable build in hell. Thank you.
     
  2. spiral55

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    Even if you never, ever use it, you want the fastest possible weapon you can use on a smiter, because smite's speed is based on your weapon speed. IIRC, punching attack speed is horribly slow, so you'd really be hurting yourself.

    As for viable, I wouldn't know. But it should certainly be interesting. Keep us posted. :)
     
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    I don't think so but I'm not a specialiste of it. Try and write an article if it work well
     
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    I think that you will *need* a damage aura to be effective, yet I dont know how much damage smite can do w/o auras.
    then, what do I know? :teeth:

    Pucho
    edit: even if you dont want to spend more points, fanatism gives you 17%dmg/level (and ias) and smite 15%, so I think that you can leave smite at lvl 1 and pump fanatism. your defense will be high anyway, because defiance is a synergie of holy shield, and you can always hire a defiance merc.
     
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    Smiters can be effective in SP, but you need the right gear. You can max those skills: Smite, HS, Defiance and Zeal. Defiance is only used to synergise you HS def bonus. This way, if you have a nice Exile shield/rare pally shield/upgraded HoZ you'll be able to dish out ~2k average damage with smite. On your weap the main things you'd want are CB, OW and speed, DS doesn't work with smite. :( Good weap choises:

    The redeemer mighty scepter
    "Kingslayer" Zerker
    Fleshripper fanged knife
    Astreon's Iron Ward caddy

    On switch you can use Lacerator so you'll be able to Amp the monsters very fast and dispose off the PI's. :)

    @ Pucho: Without maxed smite AND HS the whole build is useless IMO, believe me, you won't be able to dish out enough dam!
     
  6. JohnnyBravo

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    Does anyone know which if any auras will transfer over to smite?

    @Vorbiss: Thank you for your advise, but I plain to use only smite as an attack. I will carry a scepter for the plus to skill and that smite is based on weapon speed.
     
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    @vorbiss
    I know that HS and smite would be the best thing, but since JB posted 60 skill points I thought that maybe he wont spend much more than that so I advice him to leave smite at lvl 1 and pump fanatism with the rest of skill points. Fanatism gives better damage than smite itself (and IAS).
    @jonnhy bravo Ideally you'll want HS, smite and fanatism maxed. I know that might, conc and fanat increase the smite damage, dont know about elemental auras.
     
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    I know this may sound steep/very costly, but maybe you could get ahold of a Exile "runeword" and replace the 20 in defience with some other aura to boost your damage.

    Exile
    Vex + Ohm + Ist + Dol

    15% Chance To Cast Level 5 Life Tap On Striking
    Level 16 Defiance Aura When Equipped
    +2 To Offensive Auras (Paladin Only)
    +30% Faster Block Rate
    Freezes Target
    +220-260% Enhanced Defense (varies)
    Replenish Life +7
    +5% To Maximum Cold Resist
    +5% To Maximum Fire Resist
    25% Better Chance Of Getting Magic Items
     
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    I played a Smiter/Blessed Hammer pally in 1.09 - the skills go really well together. Initially, Holy Shield adds more damage to your attack than Smite does, so I would max that first. At the very mininum you want to max Holy Shield, Smite and a damage aura (like Fanatacism or Concentration).

    One on one, Smite is one of the best skills in the game. It ignores target defence, stuns, and always knocks back. That combo renders most monsters in the game completely helpless. Keep knocking them back until they're trapped against something, then beat them into submission.

    Where Smite is weak is in crowd control. At high levels, you can keep a couple of monsters stunned long enough to run back and forth between the them, but more than that and you have to rely on your defence and blocking, or separate the monsters out.

    Also Smite doesn't leech. The mana cost is small enough than natural regeneration is enough after a while. For life leech I recommend Dracul's Grasp or a weapon with life tap charges on switch. Life tap makes you close to immortal.

    Chris
     
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    Thank you everyone for your input. First I listed only 60 skill points because I know little about the pally and did not know what was good to use. I've modified my outlook. Here are my new thoughts:

    Smite: 20
    Holy Shield: 20
    Defiance: 20
    Fanaticism: 20
    Conviction: ~5

    I am plaining on carrying a scepter, but only for the plus to skills. Smite will be my only attack. I added conviction to help break immunities expecially physical.

    Any more ideas/help?
     
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    conviction lowers defense and fire/cold/ligth resistance, not physical
     
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    Conviction won't help you at all with physical immunes. For those you'll need something with Amp Damage charges or chance to cast Amp on striking.

    You may want to invest in one or two of the elemental damage auras for PI's, although I'm not sure if their melee damage component works with Smite. Anyone able to confirm or deny that?
     
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    Conviction will only break fire/cold/lightning immunities. Only Decrepiry and Amplify Damage can break physical immunity

    edit: Im so slow...
     
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    if you want get a hellrack on switch and go at PI's with that...A gimmershred would actually be a better bet cause of less str req. get atmas scarab ammy maybe...or maybe a reapers toll for your merc so he can cast decrip. On a side note...if you dont have an amazing weapon or for just low lvls...a blood cresent skimitar would be awsome for this...something like 33% open wounds 15res all 15 ias and some other gravy stats...its nice and fast with lots of Open wounds so you can alternate hitting mobs for better crowd control...and smite will own bosses.
     
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    I have a lvl 82 smiter myself that is a Patriarch.

    I play Single Player exclusively now, and I have never traded publically, so all the stuff I do use is very findable for the most part.

    First of all, Smite as a pure skill, and by that I mean absolutely no use of any other physical skill, is very viable. I will actually have to disagree to an earlier comment about crowd control. For all the crowds you will find in the game aside from Hell Cows, Smite works in an ideal fashion.

    In any case, my advice is to get yourself a high rate of crushing blow. I personally use Goblin-Toe, Fleshrender, and Guillaume's Face (a very recent addiition. Beat the game without this) for the crushing blow. Open wounds is also quite handy at the higher levels.

    The best shield to use will probably be a rare elite paladin specific shield, perhaps something lucky you might get from Anya for doing her hell quest. Barring that, if you happen to find a magic Elite Pally shield, don't be afraid to use some P Gems to reroll it for good mods (which I did).

    You also want as much ED as you can get, because without incredibly good equipment, the max damage output for one strike can be kinda low. I'd suggest a might merc (easy to keep alive with Smite), and Max Fanat. Before finding a good weapon, a good +skills sceptor (preferably to holy shield) is one decent option.

    So far as actual play, a big problem that you may have in crowds is that you might forget that RUNNING in a crowd puts a huge "kick me" sign on your back. When you're working the crowd, walk and you'll save yourself alot of pots.

    I also have a few points in conviction and ven. on switch, with the Gavel of Pain to deal with PI when I feel like taking the time to kill them.

    All in all, it's a very viable build, and you can go really far with it.

    Have fun.
     
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    @Derrick1001: Thank you. I'll keep that in mind when I'm leveling. I am ATM at the Black Marsh WP. The hardest thing i'm finding so far is figuring out which mods/skills transfer over to smite. To my dismay I quickly learned that charms do not. I was going to use them to deal with PI. My second option was getting a HF merc. or put points into HF, myself, but I found out that HF damage does not transfer to the smite either :(

    This is a lot of fun so far! Hope I keep doing well.
     
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    remember max dmg doesnt add to smite dmg, only %ED. lots of crushing blow and open wounds like stated above and thats all you should worry about for what applies heh.
     
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    use a 6soket phase blade with 6 shaels.... ULTRA SPEEEEED!!!
     

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