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skills/gear for all around pvp public v/t pally?

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  1. cowtestickles

    cowtestickles IncGamers Member

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    skills/gear for all around pvp public v/t pally?

    i'm looking for the gear/ skills i would set up/use for a v/t pally that will jsut duel in public games. And for gear not wanting to switch gear every duel.
     
  2. Mr.Popo

    Mr.Popo Banned

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    if ur dueling ffa in pubs, then u should go like this:

    skill for v/t

    20 smite
    20 holy shield
    20 fantacism
    10~20 conviction
    rest of the points goes to foh


    gears:

    asheron or doom zerker
    enigma
    shako or 2pally 20fcr rare circlet
    up'd hoz or exile vortex shield
    dracul
    tgod or verdungo
    gore rider or imp
    1x 10fcr rare ring with resist, stat, and some others
    1x ravenfrost
    +2pally ammy with stats and resists or mara
    anni
    10x pcombat gcs (with life if ur rich)
    5x 20life/5res scs
    4x 20life/17mana scs
     
  3. Mr.Popo

    Mr.Popo Banned

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    if ur dueling ffa in pubs, then u should go like this:

    skill for v/t

    20 smite
    20 holy shield
    20 fantacism
    10~20 conviction
    rest of the points goes to foh


    gears:

    asheron or doom zerker
    enigma
    shako or 2pally 20fcr rare circlet
    up'd hoz or exile vortex shield
    dracul
    tgod or verdungo
    gore rider or imp
    1x 10fcr rare ring with resist, stat, and some others
    1x ravenfrost
    +2pally ammy with stats and resists or mara
    anni
    10x pcombat gcs (with life if ur rich)
    5x 20life/5res scs
    4x 20life/17mana scs
     
  4. cowtestickles

    cowtestickles IncGamers Member

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    i'm on ladder so no 20/5's and wouldn't a silence be better? And that build realy leans on smite, i was thinking more of a foh build!
     
  5. Mr.Popo

    Mr.Popo Banned

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    If thats the case, then u want items with as many +skills. The reason i choose doom is because it will slow ppl down, and this is a big advantage against other smiter, v/t, and other melee characters. (especially zealot) Not to mention it adds ow and good speed to ur smite. If u dont wish to bm, then use grief as ur main smiter weapon. Silence is only there for stacking resist against cold sorc and foher while still provide decent dmg.

    The ultimate weapon for foh is a 5s caddy with +3 conviction, +3 foher. If u can get that, then simply socket it with 5x light facet. (5/5 if u want to be perfect)

    Btw, the charms can be anything near that. so a 15+life/3+res scs are good enough. (assume u want to be pure legit, and no dupes around in L anyway) And dont get an eth up'd Hoz, regular up'd Hoz is better.

    v/t is more lean toward smite rather than foh, due to the fact that foh is negatable and ppl would just stack resist, massive absorb items, and they'll be immune against it. If u wish use foh a lot rather than smite, a pure foher might do better performanace. Smite is a better choice in most ppl, thats why v/t is better than foher.
     
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    cowtestickles IncGamers Member

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    hmm how what if i put my skills like

    20 foh
    20 holy shock
    20 holy shield
    20 fant
    rest into smite
    and just 1 into conviction? i hear thats good! with + skills it should - what res they have unless their already stacking!
     
  7. DanteAlastor

    DanteAlastor Banned

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    smite holyshield fanaticsm foh (all maxed)
    split your conviction/holyshock points

    10combats
    9x20
    anni

    my gear with no absorb
    kiras(fal) for str so i can equip guardian angel
    mara or nokozan ammy
    bkring
    verdungo
    guardian angel(Lo)
    4 um um um um sacred targe 130 all res
    silence phase blade
    bloodfist
    treks boots

    my gear dr only
    shako ber
    mara
    bk+ravenfrost
    verdungo
    enigma archon
    Uphoz ber
    same weapon boots gloves

    special items
    ebotd cb (anti necro) 4ptopaz(anti vt) and 4psaphire (anti cold) 200 seperate resist
    wait list ladder items:341 grief pb and a crap spirit shield low str pall shield
     
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    Mr.Popo Banned

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    nope, it is better to do -resist rather than go for pure dmg. The point of foh in the v/t build is making ppl stack resist so they cant use better gears. So if u only just put 1pt in conviction, a simple HoZ and something else can excess ur conviction effect so they're still using their regular setup against u.

    Spread pts between foh and holy shock will give u a little bit higher dmg than max out 20 foh, but the reason that i dont do that cuz u waste too many pre-requisite to get to foh and holy shock.
     
  9. Davie.

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    Pub v/t shouldnt go like that at all.
    Grief is best ladder smite wpn hands down.
    Ur build should look like this 20 fanat 20 smite enough hs to get good block 13 foh 17 synergy holy shock and rest into conviction.
    What you want your equip to be besides grief is either highlords for better charge dmg and some decent ias/lit res or maras
    Enigma or fortitude (though if you do not use enigma non marrowalk using necros will ****ing OWN you with boneprison) so go enigma for the life and skills =).
    Up'd hoz or Exile
    1 Bk ring 1 ravenfrost
    Shako ber'd
    Dungos
    w/e boots u can find, if you dont have any good boots use tearhaunch and dont put anything into vigor. saving 4 skills makes up for ****ty resists.
    Bloodfists or Ias gloves with stats/res (depends on how much ias u need for 6 frame smite.)
    Well thats pretty much the best way as i see it.
     
  10. zactlyman

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    Hmm, i was curious. On my switch, i still want to have a CTA on my non grief side. So, i was thinking of making a CTA in a 3 foh war scepter. thats 4 to foh, and i still get my BO's. What do you guys think?

    I also wear

    Bered shako
    Maras
    CoH arch
    dungo
    bloodfist
    bk ring
    ravenfrost
    Hoz/Hoz (both ber'ed)
    Grief/ ? Cta scepter ?
    treks
     
  11. Weltkriegpally

    Weltkriegpally IncGamers Member

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    if you keep shift charging around with vigor on, I don't see how that necros gonna own you too easily. You will either have him desynched all to hell, or he won't be able to get a clicklock on you, at least not until you have landed right next to him for the smiting bonanza. Also, NEVER use exile on a v/t, pub or not. It bloody well sucks for your purposes.

    --welt
     
  12. Darknicrofia

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    first check prada's v/t guide, it will help you alot, and second, dont put more than 1 into conviction, if you're a v/t it means you are more smite than foh, and to balance your foh damage, check the guides for optimizing foh damage in terms of putting in foh and holyshock skills, as for gear, just check prada's vt guide, if you can't afford, just go for griz, if built properly, a griz v/t can be pretty decent in pub dueling games
     
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    Darknicrofia IncGamers Member

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    ........you do know that smite damge in nl depends more on holy shield than smite OR the shield, but in ladder that is another story. and personally i believe 1 conviction is more than enough, and if you are in ladder, make the build into a t/v since grief will give you killer smite damage either way, build will look like this
    20 foh
    20 holy shock
    20 holy shield
    20 fanta
    rest in smite
    others in pre requisite skills
    1 in conviction

    gear will look like
    ber'd shako
    nigma
    ber'd up'd hoz
    15 dr dungos
    grief pb
    anni
    10x Pcombat lifers
    rare pally amulet, best stats are +2 skills, + life mana,+str and resist
    eth treks
    crafted ias glove or bloodfists


    check Prada's vt guide, it pretty much has the high end details in it
     
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    lol, everyone ignored my question. So, again i ask, any comment on my Cta in a 3 foh scepter?
     
  15. Weltkriegpally

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    I don't recommend it. Cta isn't all that useful in my opinion, but if you had to, then its not a bad choice. I still think wizard spike is a better option because fcr does help vs. fast ranged hitters like necros, hammerdins, zons, trappers, or sorcs.

    --welt
     
  16. ExT

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    use a plain CtA, everyone uses one so you'll be at a disadvantage if you don't.
     
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    hah, not at all. Playing correctly and knowing when to stay back are usually a better alternative than wasting a whole weapon switch on cta.
     
  18. Weltkriegpally

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    agreed. I don't use one, and I do just fine. there are times, though, when facing off against other duelers, that I choose to use one, just to show them how much of an advantage it can be when properly used (namely vs. the so called godly whirler barbs).

    --welt
     

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