Skele Ubers? Possible Or Not?

[SyCoMiDgEt]

Skele Ubers? Possible Or Not?

Hello All To Viewing This, And Yes Ubers With Skeles Might Sound Crazy BUT Some People Say It Can Be Done!

So Far I Plan On Using This Skills

20 Reg. Skele
20 Skele Mage
20 Skele Mastery
20 Fire Golem ( 1 In Pre. Req. )
1 Revive
1 Golem Mastery
1 Summon Resist
1 Amp
1 Iron Maiden

So With Gear Im Hoping The Skills With 1 Can Get High Enough To Be Fairly Effective, Eh? Sound Good So Far, I Hope So!

Right Now Im Looking Towards This Gear:

Marrows ( 2+ )

MP Enigma

Shako ( Um'ed )

Beast Runeword

***Ammy, Need Help With This One

Rings - Most Likly Wisp And RavenFrost, Or Should I Got Wisp And Carrion?

***Is Homun The Best? If Im Correct It Has Block And Resist...

***6-9 Summon Gc's Or Should I Put 1 Put Into Bone Arm, Wall And Prison And Use 3 Bone And Prisons?

*** No Idea On Belt, Can Exactly Afford Anrach

18-18 NTorch, And Anni

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Let Me Know On Skills, And Other Gear
Also Needing Help With Merc ( Looking For Infinity But Value Is High )
:laugh: Thanks!

 

[UberB]

You will need an AoKL and a good Darkforce on switch to buff up your skellies. Amulet should be Mara's. Maybe get a +3 summoning skills for prebuff. Also get 2 SOJ's or 2 BK's also for prebuffing.

Merc should have Pride because skellies do more damage than mages, even with Infinity.

You should consider getting CE and focusing on Clay instead. Clay golems have more life and can slow enemies down. Really helps on bosses.

I think this should be possible because skellies can do around 10k damage each if you have good enough gear.

If you do go for clay golem then split your points evenly between mastery and clay golem; this grants the highest life.

 

[nicro tower]

get alot of cb(infinity owns) on your merc and get urdar/mauler revives for cb. get terror to scare all those pesky minions away from you. and do try to stand somewhere where you wont get hit by anything.

 

[SyCoMiDgEt]

Thank You!

Golem Question:
Clay Golem = More Health?
Fire Golem = More Damage?

So More Health Is Better? But Then Also Knowing That Fire Golem Is Fire So Ubers Are Immune And Immune From The Aura...

So Changing My Skills To 10/10 On Golem And Clay Golem,
Thanks:laugh:

 

[naskali]

get alot of cb(infinity owns) on your merc and get urdar/mauler revives for cb. get terror to scare all those pesky minions away from you. and do try to stand somewhere where you wont get hit by anything.

Well, I think that he wants to do ubers with ONLY skellies, not by revives. Even I can solo ubers(im poison/summon necro and I have only one pts in all summons kills)by using revives like urdars.

Not sure about skellies, because they have no cb and they will get killed rather easily(since bosses do extra dmg vs summoned monsters/mercs)

Btw, Uber Meph aint gonna summon ANY skellies:wink2:

 

[SyCoMiDgEt]

Well, I think that he wants to do ubers with ONLY skellies, not by revives. Even I can solo ubers(im poison/summon necro and I have only one pts in all summons kills)by using revives like urdars.

Not sure about skellies, because they have no cb and they will get killed rather easily(since bosses do extra dmg vs summoned monsters/mercs)

Btw, Uber Meph aint gonna summon ANY skellies:wink2:

This Is Wrong, 1 Point Revive Will End Up Being Around 15-18 Depending On Grand Charms....
So I Will Be Using Those, Hopefully They Will Help!

Also Knowing That My Skeles Will Have Around 1k Health They Shouldnt Do To Bad, Ill Just Have To Keep Re-Summoning

 

[flamingchen]

10k damage skellies? Wow, thats some crazy damage. Must tear through everything!

 

[RichardMajicus]

There will be plenty of spawned minions to keep you going, so that should not be an issue. Corpse Explosion is your friend, use it as much as you can while still maintaining your army. Make sure you have Heart of Wolverine casted from your Wisp so you get even more AR and damage.

Use the best Mara's you can get your hands on. For the shield, I always favored a +3 Boneflame socketed with an Um. If you can't afford Arach, try to get a Verdungo belt, highest DR you can find on it. Use as many summon GCs as you can, keep in mind the ubers will probably destroy any walls you erect immediately as they have pretty strong attacks so it's not really worth putting points into it. It's important that you have as many resist sc as possible and a crafted or rare resist ring couldn't hurt either. You don't want to die to a random spell hitting you, and Mephisto has that nasty Conviction running. Infinity is pointless because his Conviction is stronger and would override yours anyway; Pride suits much better.

 

[SyCoMiDgEt]

There will be plenty of spawned minions to keep you going, so that should not be an issue. Corpse Explosion is your friend, use it as much as you can while still maintaining your army. Make sure you have Heart of Wolverine casted from your Wisp so you get even more AR and damage.

Use the best Mara's you can get your hands on. For the shield, I always favored a +3 Boneflame socketed with an Um. If you can't afford Arach, try to get a Verdungo belt, highest DR you can find on it. Use as many summon GCs as you can, keep in mind the ubers will probably destroy any walls you erect immediately as they have pretty strong attacks so it's not really worth putting points into it. It's important that you have as many resist sc as possible and a crafted or rare resist ring couldn't hurt either. You don't want to die to a random spell hitting you, and Mephisto has that nasty Conviction running. Infinity is pointless because his Conviction is stronger and would override yours anyway; Pride suits much better.

Ok, Thank You!
Also I Know This Isnt A Price Check Thread Or Whatever, But, How Much Is A Wisp If Anyone Knows....
And Same With The BoneFlame

And If Im Correct If I Use Pride Will The Con Over Right Might If I Use Offensive Merc? If So Should I Go Ahead And Use Defensive?

Currently Just Hit A DClone Game, Full Of Noobs That Didnt Know How To Spawn, It Was A 17-17-5 Anni, That Might Come In Handy Too!

 

[Smackin]

got a budget? If not, heres what I recommend:

20skel
20mastery
20 revive
1pt all curses
20CE
1pt all golemz
use rest points for whatever u want

Gear

shako um'ed
enigma mp
arachs
2x sojs
beast axe
p boneflame
trang glovez
p maras
triple res boots
anni/torch
9x summon GCs

Merc(act2 might)

ebugged CoH(2k+ def atleast)
um'ed p kiras
Weapon choices vary depending on how u look at it. Vs meph, pride. Vs the rest, infinity. Once meph goes down, conviction from infinity>conc from pride by 68489%

Tactics? Just like ur regular stuff, BO/BC, revive yourself 45+ maulerz, summon yo 10+ poison mages. Run in trist, lure out meph, decrep, telestomp, run out, cast gumby, watch him die in 20 seconds. Rinse, repeat. If minions bother u, dim vision the map, decrep the boss(decrep has small radius so it wont affect other monsters). When built right and played right, the summoner is the strongest pvm char, smokin the best light sorc, the best javazon, the best light trapper by a mile.(Hammerdins dont count, they're so weak and slow. 15K hammer is so weak)

 

[Juicy]

just a few tips, unless you have no better options never put any points besides one into any of the golems, except for clay cause it increases his life but even then max golem mastery first which increases all golems life. Iron golem only gets a crappy amount of defense each point and an increase in its thorns dmg, but cmon like his thorns is doing anything neway? fire golem gets more dmg but its only fire dmg and not much of it either, at lvl 35 he does under 1000 fire dmg... yay. considering your skelys will be doing 3500 each with the right auras on em.

20 revive i dont recomend though unless you want it i dont know, personally ive never had the need for 46 maulers considering they cant all attack and they just get in eachothers way. one point with plus skills is plenty, youll have lvl 20 revive with just the one point.

lvl 20 CE all the way. blowing up the whole screen with corpses is the way to go. wait why one IM, if its a prereq for getting life tap the sure but IM is useless since 1.10

here this will help you see which skills youll want to get to 20
Mod Edit: It is not allowed to link to that site since it sells items amongst other things. Link to this site or this site instead.

 

[RichardMajicus]

Ok, Thank You!
Also I Know This Isnt A Price Check Thread Or Whatever, But, How Much Is A Wisp If Anyone Knows....
And Same With The BoneFlame

And If Im Correct If I Use Pride Will The Con Over Right Might If I Use Offensive Merc? If So Should I Go Ahead And Use Defensive?

Currently Just Hit A DClone Game, Full Of Noobs That Didnt Know How To Spawn, It Was A 17-17-5 Anni, That Might Come In Handy Too!

I don't know what Wisp and Boneflame go for, but it shouldn't be THAT expensive. You don't need a particularly amazing Wisp ring, but I do recommend you make an extra effort to get the +3 Boneflame with as high res as you can.

If you use Pride on a Might merc, you get the benefits of BOTH auras. That way, you can have Might, Concentration, Fanaticism (from your Beast zerker), and Heart of the Wolverine (from Wisp) all in effect at once, which combined with Amplify Damage will let you achieve the 10k+ skeleton damage you seek, keeping in mind that your minions also are getting some IAS off Fanaticism too, so they deal more damage in less time.

 

[nicro tower]

I'm pretty sure that skellies dont get 10k damage per hit... i've played around with the summons calc and i got like around 1k damage out of them, assuming a lvl 40ish fanat, and conc and might dont add another 9k damage.. and 10k skellies would take down ubers in like 2 seconds flat...

 

[Smackin]

46 maulers WILL attack at once due to telestomp. Get urself an enigma and see. Skeles doing 3500 each? U failed math 1 or something? Fishies are the most powerful pvm char, but 3500 per skele just aint right. The guy wants the most efficient uber killer there is, so I give him the most efficient uber killer there is.

 

[jakey]

can someoen explain to me what lvl RS and SM is required for 10K skellies EACH? THAT'S NUTS

 

[nicro tower]

its impossible, even at SLVL 99, you only get about 4k skellie damage

 

[jakey]

then what the heck are they all talking about?

 

[glisses]

There will be plenty of spawned minions to keep you going, so that should not be an issue. Corpse Explosion is your friend, use it as much as you can while still maintaining your army. Make sure you have Heart of Wolverine casted from your Wisp so you get even more AR and damage.

I just had to register to say that spawned minions don't leave corpses. So CE is useless.

Anyways, Clay Golems are the only choice for ubers. They slow down minions by about 60% (I have one point in it and boosted by charms, has around 10k life when summoned in Hell) and combine that with additional "slowing" from Decrepify, the ubers are practically helpless.

 

[RichardMajicus]

I just had to register to say that spawned minions don't leave corpses. So CE is useless.

Anyways, Clay Golems are the only choice for ubers. They slow down minions by about 60% (I have one point in it and boosted by charms, has around 10k life when summoned in Hell) and combine that with additional "slowing" from Decrepify, the ubers are practically helpless.

That's interesting, I never really noticed. Then again I never decided to take QuinnMajicus into Tristram either.

Here's a c/p of a section from a guide written by KIRBIX (Sean D'Hoostelaere). This might help with the damage thing.

IXa. SKELETON DAMAGE (just for show)
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OK, so I've been rambling on about the damage that a skeleton can do, right?
Well, here's the rundown of just how much damage you can expect from your
skeletons.

FIRST, we'll show what kind of damage they'll do when you and your mercenary
are both naked.

Level 20 skeleton and mastery= 124-127 damage
Level 17 might (just for the sake of a number)= +200%
So triple your damage to 372-381
Now, add on amplify damage to get your final damage of 744-762

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Meh, with 8 skeletons, that's pretty lame, am I right? So, let's up the volume!
Using the optimum equipment I suggested, you'll have +14 to all skills. Assuming
you have perfect equipment, you'll also be using a hellfire torch (+3 necro
skills), an annihilus (+1 to all skills), and 8 +1 to summoning grand charms.

Which means that with marrowalks, you'll have level 46 raise skeleton and level
48 skeleton mastery.

Raw damage per skeleton (and you have 17)- 830-834.
Using a mercenary with level 20 might- 230%
Perfect pride weapon gives level 20 concentration- 345%
Total bonus? 575%, which means you get another 4700 damage.
Total damage? 5500. Add on amplify damage, and that's 10,000 PER SKELETON, and
you have 17!

If you plugged fanatacism in as well, you'd have 670% extra damage, which
means you get an additional 2,000 damage per skeleton. >_> at 10,000 damage
per skeleton, added with corpse explosion, do you see why it's beating a
dead horse? I mean, come on! 170,000 damage per swing is QUITE enough, I think.

 

[Juicy]

No no that guys wrong about the 5000 dmg skellies doing 10k with amp. just look at this pet calculator and apply the external aruas and see how much they do. at first i was like huh they only do 2400 dmg with might, fanaticism, conc, and wisp?!? but then i thought about it and assumed that the percent dmg added is in addition to the skely skills own percent dmg added not multiplied on top of it

if you look at the RS skill it says skely dmg plus 300percent or so, essentially the aruas are adding to that not to the dmg at the top of the skill which says 830-834. im hoping im wrong about this but thats what the pet calcuator says so if anyone knows if thats true or not plz tell me

also i did fail math 1 so i must be wrong