Single tree zon better the pure blizz sorc for AOE?

Bigkilla

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Looking for the fastest possible AOE killer untwinked. I have been looking at lightning amazon but am currently using a pure blizz sorc. I can clear p8 ancient tunnels with no issues and in about 10-15 minutes atm but have been wondering if I could be farming faster with a lighting zon. The skills look good on paper but untwinked is pure blizz sorc still better? I don't want to even think about melee for fats farming until I have some decent gear and don't have the gear for poison mancer either.
 

ioupainmax

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If it's untwinked, I would go Blizzard Sorceress every time. You should instead run Hell Meph until you have built up enough wealth to improve your safety and killing speed in AT.

After running Hell Meph, you'll probably find enough gear to kit out a Javazon respectably.
 

pharphis

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Looking for the fastest possible AOE killer untwinked. I have been looking at lightning amazon but am currently using a pure blizz sorc. I can clear p8 ancient tunnels with no issues and in about 10-15 minutes atm but have been wondering if I could be farming faster with a lighting zon. The skills look good on paper but untwinked is pure blizz sorc still better? I don't want to even think about melee for fats farming until I have some decent gear and don't have the gear for poison mancer either.
you could be farming faster going with p1, p3, or p5 and getting a reasonably fast map. p8 will barely increase your drops vs p3 (and not even the good stuff that you get from boss packs) and will boost exp.
 

Naturallog

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Run AT in p3. Honestly, p8 is just for leveling. It won't increase your drops from boss packs by much, just the regular mobs and minions see any effect. Since you're asking specifically for AT, a blizz sorc is the fastest. LF zons don't perform well except in a few limited areas where lots of enemies are close together. Like cows.
 

Bigkilla

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If it's untwinked, I would go Blizzard Sorceress every time. You should instead run Hell Meph until you have built up enough wealth to improve your safety and killing speed in AT.

After running Hell Meph, you'll probably find enough gear to kit out a Javazon respectably.
I haven't made it to Meph yet. I need a lot more FCR and FHR or I just keep getting caught while teleporting. I have to basically just teleport as fast as I can as CI pack generally have there way with me as my merc cannot slow them down. I have a plan though through some easy runewords.

Run AT in p3. Honestly, p8 is just for leveling. It won't increase your drops from boss packs by much, just the regular mobs and minions see any effect. Since you're asking specifically for AT, a blizz sorc is the fastest. LF zons don't perform well except in a few limited areas where lots of enemies are close together. Like cows.
I am leveling too. Trying to get to 90 currently at 83. I appreciate the advice though and will try doing p3 and just killing boss packs here soon.

Thanks all.
 

pharphis

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leveling is still very fast on p1. For example I have a pally who has been running /p1 for the MFO.. it should be under 1k runs for level 91 from 75+
Which means it should be ~500 runs total for level 90 (estimate based on my experience running AT) from 75+. /p1 works fine <3 (and your merc should be able to kill CIs on /p1)

2x spirit works great (sword and monarch) until you can get a better wep such as hoto, wizardspike (safety instead of skills), oculus or fathom (good luck!). Spirit has 55 fhr, tons of mana and 25-35 fcr

/p1 or /p3 is best imo.
 

Bigkilla

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leveling is still very fast on p1. For example I have a pally who has been running /p1 for the MFO.. it should be under 1k runs for level 91 from 75+
Which means it should be ~500 runs total for level 90 (estimate based on my experience running AT) from 75+. /p1 works fine <3 (and your merc should be able to kill CIs on /p1)

2x spirit works great (sword and monarch) until you can get a better wep such as hoto, wizardspike (safety instead of skills), oculus or fathom (good luck!). Spirit has 55 fhr, tons of mana and 25-35 fcr

/p1 or /p3 is best imo.
the problem isn't that my merc can't kill CI's its that most CI's have serious speed boost and holy freeze has no effect on them and they love love love to target only me and I can't get away without aggro'ing like 8 more packs. Once I get 2 x spirit and some more FCR I think I can just blow by everything until meph.
 

Naturallog

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the problem isn't that my merc can't kill CI's its that most CI's have serious speed boost and holy freeze has no effect on them (...)
Holy freeze does affect cold immunes. The slow effect is separate from the normal chill effect. If you see a CI, just move on to the next pack unless your merc can kill it in less than 4 seconds or so. Otherwise your time would have been better spent getting more runs in.
 

Bigkilla

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Basically if I want to beat pure blizz sorc for aoe I would need infinity and switch to lightning zon or lightning sorc then?
 

Rawness

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if you want to beat blizzard for speed in ancient tunnels, then sure you need infinity. the archers are LI and AT has no cold resists. Still think a blizzy beats a javazon even with infinity.
 
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