Singing Barb

Gaza0469

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Singing Barb

Hey all

I am currently building a new Singing Barbarian, I want to put 20 points in each of Battle Commands, Battle Orders and Shout.

Are they all stackable? I know that with Paladin Auras you can only use one at a time, unless therea are 2 paladins in the party.

Can I cast all three in a row then use all three until they run out?

Or does each new warcry overright the previous ones?

for combat,

I want to put 20 points into mace mastery

then for my attack I want to put 20 points into double swing ( and use 2 maces)

will this do enough damage, if I use warcrys to amp up the rest of my stats?
Or will I need to max Double swings synergy, and just use Shout and battle orders?
 

[exile]

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I think you misunderstood the term 'singing barbarian.' It refers to barbarians relying solely on their skill War Cry to deal damage to enemies. Therefore, no melee weapon or combat skills are ever used... and neither are weapon masteries.

Warcries do stack, and will work together until their time runs out, but putting any more than one skill point into Battle Command is a waste of skill points. Those skill points can be better spent elsewhere.

There is an excellent PvM guide here, and a PvP guide here.

Have fun!
 

Gaza0469

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[exile] said:
I think you misunderstood the term 'singing barbarian.' It refers to barbarians relying solely on their skill War Cry to deal damage to enemies. Therefore, no melee weapon or combat skills are ever used... and neither are weapon masteries.

Warcries do stack, and will work together until their time runs out, but putting any more than one skill point into Battle Command is a waste of skill points. Those skill points can be better spent elsewhere.

There is an excellent PvM guide here, and a PvP guide here.

Have fun!

LOL

ahh, yeah, hes a singing Hybrid.

One that is 50% warcries , 50% combat.

can singing Barbs actually kill ppl can they ?

I will ready your guides, thanx ;)
 

Gaza0469

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LOL ;)
ahh, seems the Barb forum is the only one with a sense of humour??

;)


Does anyone use double swing? with its synergy, is it strong in Hell, or is it weak?

Also , does weapon mastery effect the second weapon? Or just the first weapon?

Does anyone have an in depth guide on double swing ?
 

Zangeif

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20 in BO 20 in shout - all ww barbs have this

20 in battle command - WHY??? You only get 1 skill point regardless of how high the level is. Only the duration increases, and it's long enough at level 1 + skill items and synergy bonus. 1 point is more than enough.

Basically what you are describing is a regular barb with 20 in battle command which is just terrible. If you want to try a "hybrid" barb, this isn't it.
 

Oversized_D2player

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Gaza0469 said:
LOL ;)
ahh, seems the Barb forum is the only one with a sense of humour??
;)
Does anyone use double swing? with its synergy, is it strong in Hell, or is it weak?
Also , does weapon mastery effect the second weapon? Or just the first weapon?
Does anyone have an in depth guide on double swing ?
Yep mate we're all damn funny here :xrein:

It's not that double swing isn't effective (well its not really very good actually) its just that frenzy, a very similar skill to which Double Swing is a synergy, is so much better and downright cooler. You get a much faster attack speed, rediculous run speed and more damage. The attack animation is even very similar. If you like double swing I think you'll love frenzy.
Have a look at Ash's comprehensive guide to frenzy here :Frenzy guide

Weapon mastery effects both weapons as long as, of course, both weapons are the same type as the mastery. ie axe mastery=berserker axes, cleavers, war spike ect... ect.

Ok about war cries. Having a barb that uses shout (20 points recommended) Battle Orders (20 points a must) and Battle Command (1 point only.. EVER) does not make him a hybrid singer barb. Just a well built barb. When you play with other people you will probably notice that at the start of most baal runs or certainly when everyone reaches the throne room the barbarians will cast their War cries.
Having shout, BO and BC is the starting point for most barb builds and certainly is a big big key to our huge life, great defence and popularity to play.
 

Gaza0469

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Oversized_D2player said:
Yep mate we're all damn funny here :xrein:




Ok about war cries. Having a barb that uses shout (20 points recommended) Battle Orders (20 points a must) and Battle Command (1 point only.. EVER) does not make him a hybrid singer barb. Just a well built barb. When you play with other people you will probably notice that at the start of most baal runs or certainly when everyone reaches the throne room the barbarians will cast their War cries.
Having shout, BO and BC is the starting point for most barb builds and certainly is a big big key to our huge life, great defence and popularity to play.

LOL, someoene told me that BC gave everyone stat points, so I just assumed that it was +1 all skills for every point placed, I didnt realise that it was only one point , and each additional point just increased duration.

Thats a pretty dodgy skill. Blizz should of made it +1 all skills for levels 1-5 in it, and another +1 all skills for each additional 5 levels in it.

So at level 20 you could have +4 all skills for say 60 seconds.

BC doesnt seem very useful past level 1...

Thanx guys, all your points have been noted ;)

This is how my build will look at Level 93 - 104 skill points

BO---20 Points
Shout---20 Points
Mace Mastery---20 Points
Frenzy---20 Points
Double Throw-15 Points

Remaining 9 for pre-reqs and extra speed , 1 in stone skin, 2 in natural resistances.

Does that look ok ?
 

Oversized_D2player

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Looks pretty good but what items are you going to be using. I'm hoping that double throw is actually double swing..... Maxing shout is a great idea, don't get me wrong, but depending on your weapon damage and armour you may have to/be able to exchange a few shout points for some more in double swing and perhaps taunt...
 

Gaza0469

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haha , yeah, sorry Double swing thats supposed to be!

lot of good double throw would do me ;)

Ok, so maybe 15 shout ;)

so armor class should be fine then with shout a bit lower?
 

[exile]

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if you're pvm, you *should* be fine with 15 in shout but that all depends on your other equipment.
 
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