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Singing Barb (not Karaoke!)

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by kle02, Mar 6, 2004.

  1. kle02

    kle02 IncGamers Member

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    Singing Barb (not Karaoke!)

    I'm just wondering how the hell do you build one of these barbs?
    I'm thinking:
    20 War Cry
    20 Battle Cry
    20 BO
    20 Taunt
    10 Howl (could be 20 o_O)
    10 Shout (20 as well ?_?)
    For gear:
    Dual wizspike/HOTO :surprise:
    Enigma? or Vipermagi
    Silkweave
    Frostburn
    Shako
    Mara
    Sojs
    +warcies GC
    For stats:
    Str: enought for gear
    Dex: again enough for gear
    Vit: as much as possible
    Energy:probably need 30?
     
  2. YomoKimyata

    YomoKimyata IncGamers Member

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    Marge, I think you owe karaoke an apology! Say you're sorry Marge...
     
  3. alainpp66

    alainpp66 IncGamers Member

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    It was discussed a little in this thread: http://www.rpgforums.net/showthread.php?t=146489

    You'll need much more than 30 in Energy... unless you're just going for Support and not for killing. In that case, go all Vit.

    Shout doesn't need more than 1 since most monsters should be motionless.
     
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    kle02 IncGamers Member

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    Hmm you make a good point there, but for sure I know theres gonna be more than 30 energy maybe more than that.
     
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    I screwed up my build by putting more in vit then energy, you need alot....
    unless maybe you have an inventory full of mana charms, 50+ mana grand charms are best.

    although someone said when I was building my singer that 1 point of energy only adds 1 point of mana
    so even with 200 energy its still only 200 mana.
    kind of silly

    10x 50 mana charms adds 500 mana
    it would be even better if they were warcry skill +mana
    and 17 mana on small charms x 10 = 170
    total = 670 mana
    with a high level BO that would be ALOT of mana.

    keep in mind you dont need resist charms, since you use dual hoto or dual spike, and you don't need life charms, since I doubt you will have life problems with maxed BO and vit
     
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    my singers got around 3k life and 1.5k mana he seems to do fine... he dont kill fast but... heh
     
  7. SeraphimSilver

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    Note that you need 105% Faster Cast Rate for the "last" breakpoint on both Sorceress and Barbarian Casting FPS.
     
  8. kle02

    kle02 IncGamers Member

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    Well I've only seen one singer barb on USWest SC he had dual Wizspikes because they add mana and not to mention 100% FCR together along with 150 resist all O.O
     
  9. royalesse

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    2 HoTOs sound better to me:
    +6 all skills
    +80% FCR
    Increase max mana 30%
    +60-80 resist all
    +40 replenish life

    With +6 skills, Natural Resists should be a 2 pt wonder (1 prereq) not needing the +75 resists of wiz spike.

    You'll give up a some mana but gain +6 skills and replen life. YOu can still hit the FCR breakpoint with Viper magi.

    But hey... to each their own

    Edit: another advantage is that with HoTOs there are no dex Requirements.

    Just ran the numbers... assuming you put one in battle command you'll have +14 skills

    Which will give you +61 resist all with 1 in Nat Resists.

    THe warcry will do 1200 ~ 1800 and that's without skillers. I'd go Viper for the extra resists and the FCR. You can 1 pt leap and leap attack and you won't even need the teleport from Enigma
     
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    Seraphim... it's actually 200 for the last.
     
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    My singer guide will be up by Wedensday hopefully

    All will be revealed...

    Wiz IS better then HotO

    Put points into energy

    and Alain have you come up with any more ideas as to who had the first guide? I'd rather not give false credit
     
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    Really... I look forward to it =D
     
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    Has to do with Damage over time//mana(cost)//gear flexability

    And because I feel like it....

    Awww shut up sonny. I was making Sing barbs while you were stilling in diapers.
     
  14. SeraphimSilver

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    105% for the last reasonable breakpoint ;o
    And socket Armor and Helm with Perfect Skull for Mana Regeneration.
     
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    Does the 200% breakpoint still have the "casting skips"
     
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    Yes, but with 2 Wizspikes you wouldn't need this at all. 150 + 30 from Anya q's + 25-30 from Vipermagi = Full.
     
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    150 from Wiz and 30 from anya equal full then you don't need Wiz

    Soon my guide will be up soon
     
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    memememem173, actually putting points in energy is more of a waste.
    My singer has less energy and more mana regeneration then my friend's singer who has 3000 mana and I Cast it more often then him because I barely run out of mana for a fraction of time.
     
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    Are you saying you have no points in energy? What gear do you use? Please tell me so I can look into this befor I put out guide. Also what is your damage//skill level?
     
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    My helm:

    http://membres.lycos.fr/cardisilver/helmy.png
    Almost perfect... +3 warcry +2 :( battle orders

    Socketed with 2 perfect skulls is where the 38% mana regen comes from ;o

    Also I do have points in energy but not a lot, it doesnt give enough to be worth it.
    Using Battle Orders and Equipment like Gloom's Trap, Silkweaves, and dual wizardspike already makes your mana pretty high.. but the more mana regen you have the better.
     

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