Singer kit check

Stevomoo

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Singer kit check

it is looking like this:
Shako (what is best to socket)
Enigma Dusk MP
arachnid mesh
silkweaves
2 soj's
frostburn
2 hoto's
anni
torch
and warcry skillers.

i have never made 1 of these before so i thought i would check it out to see if i have missed anything important
 

sirwhere

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Re: Singer kit check

Delirum on +3 warcry baba helm >> shako. Also, what amulet you're wearing? You need at least 5% fcr on it for 8 frames casts.

Rest is ok, eventhough I think silkweaves suck :)

By the way, you should use merc with insight or reaper's toll.
 

Stevomoo

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Re: Singer kit check

insight all the way for merc, and dam i thought the fcr was 105 so its 115?. in that case i will try to get a +3 warcry 5+ fcr ammy
 

sirwhere

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Re: Singer kit check

it's 105 indeed, but you only got

40 hoto
40 hoto
20 arach
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100 fcr

So you need the amulet. Or drop a sojo for a fcr/mana ring.

By the way, +3 warcries amulets cannot be crafted, so you need a blue 'echoing of the apprentice' amulet. You CAN however craft +2 baba, 5% fcr with other sweet mods. You lose a +1 skills, though.

The simplest (cheapest & fastest) solution is to drop a soj for an fcr ring and use a +3 warcies amulet. Stick the soj back in when you find that blue +3, fcr ammy.
 

lukefojut

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Re: Singer kit check

Shako (what is best to socket) - Use a WC/BO Delirium or Magic/Rare instead
Enigma Dusk MP - Ideal
arachnid mesh - Great
silkweaves - Sucky boots, but good for a Singer
2 soj's - I'd only use one - Ravenfrost could be an option as you don't have CBF
frostburn - Standard
2 hoto's - I'd use 2*Wizzies and save the money. You'll get some of these skills back by switching out the Shako
anni - Higher Stats are good, as it means more Mana
torch - Again, Stats better than Resists (particularly with Wizzies)
and warcry skillers. Only use Lifers in my experience, or those with +12% FHR

Ways to max your killing power:

Add a +3 WC/+10% FCR Ammy - or a Rare/Crafted one
Get some FHR from SCs (those with Mana are lovely for this build)
Ensure you have 2*3 BO sticks on swap
Don't assume you need max Dmg from +Skills. Using Mana/Life GCs can be just as useful as skillers - a large, easily replenished Mana pool should be one of your key goals
Ensure your Merc is wearing an Insight or Reaper's Toll (NM Merc with Reaper's Toll is my personal choice - the combo of Holy Freeze and decrep slows things down to a manageable pace and I have 2.5K Mana to begin with, with lots of Stats left).
Get CBF mod from somewhere... If you find an enemy with Mana Burn and get frozen you will be in dire straits.
 

sirwhere

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Re: Singer kit check

Well... lukefoujt's plan is only one of the three available:

1. Reaper on merc, insight as main weapon. Pros: damage aplification, no mana problems. Cons: low resists, low +skills, lower FCR.
2. Reaper on merc, wizzys as main weapon. Pros: damage amplification, high resists. Cons: low +skills, baba looks silly with daggers, despite large pool there's some mana trouble! (Must stop moving to recharge with insight on switch.)
3. Insight on merc, hotos as main weapon. Pros: no mana problems, high resists, high +skills. Cons: no damage amplification, works best with maxed out synergies (i.e. less battle orders)

You seem to be going for plan 3. But you can reconsider and go for plan 1 or 2 if that suits your style of play better.

By the way: only build 2 requires cannot be frozen and/or a freeze merc. Other builds recharge so quickly that you can teleport even after mana-burned.
 

Stevomoo

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Re: Singer kit check

plan 3 sounds good to me there is 3 synergies (i think) so thats 80 skill points to max then the rest into bo so i can max that by lvl88 with skill quests, then rest of points into shout?
yep i was having a blonde moment with fcr i am looking for both derlium in warcry helm and amulet with + warcry and fcr, but until i get one of thoe i will switch frostburns for magefist. as to the cbf i will give it a shot without it and ditch a soj for raven if needed.
 

sirwhere

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Re: Singer kit check

To max out synergies and battle orders requires 102 points (I included 1 pt battle comand). That's level 91 after quests. You might want a point in natural resists as well, so that's level 93. Starting to get steep...

But if you're ok with level 10 battle orders (~lev 30 after +skills), you'd be done with 1 pt natural resists at level 83. That gives you the option of using 5 skill points to get 1 pt weapon mastery and 1 pt berserk for those pesky physical immunes. Berserk synergizes with howl, which is also a warcry synergy, so you'll have good damage. Enigma will see that you have enough strength to lift a big 2-hander on weapon switch like an ebotd ogre/thunder maul or a grief/beast berserker axe combination (less damage, but more AR). Also, having 1 pt weapon mastery will make the first 30 levels much less of a PAIN (belive me, they will be a pain if you're not rushed - been there before).

If you go the berserk way, you'll be done at level **. From there on you max out battle orders. Full build done at 98 :) Alternatively, you can use 2 points to get find item and have fun popping corpses at 8 frames fast cast. Enigma and Delirium even help with some mf% here.

The dream helm would be a Delirum on +3/x/x warcry/find item/nat resists. Even better would be +3/x/x warcry/nat res/BERSERK, but a bug makes it almost impossible for berserk to spawn on an helm. (Not impossible, just way too unlikely. Seen one once in 7 years.. lol)
 

crawlingdeadman

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Re: Singer kit check

rares > delerium. who wants to be a doll? i also dont see the point in CBF if you're using teleport.

there's also a 4th option 4. insight merc and dual wizzys

if you're worried about getting rid of immunes there's also the oft over looked decrep charges on steelspell.

also save a point in battle command by using cta (also the only way to get +7 bo on switch). until later when you can afford the point.
 

lukefojut

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Re: Singer kit check

2. Reaper on merc, wizzys as main weapon. Pros: damage amplification, high resists. Cons: low +skills, baba looks silly with daggers, despite large pool there's some mana trouble! (Must stop moving to recharge with insight on switch.)
Full Juveys anyone?

rares > delerium. who wants to be a doll? i also dont see the point in CBF if you're using teleport.
there's also a 4th option 4. insight merc and dual wizzys
if you're worried about getting rid of immunes there's also the oft over looked decrep charges on steelspell.
Yup, being a doll sucks. But then again, a Magic/Rare helm with the same level of Warcries would be pretty damn expensive. CBF helps in several situations imo, especially with my particular setup. Good tip for the Steelspell, but I try and minimize carrying loads of gear.
 

Stevomoo

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Re: Singer kit check

i have had a long night and am lvl 62 i have maxed bo and am working down the left side of warcrys maxing all, so 10 point bo is no good. thanks everyone for the help and when the build is finished i will post my final setup and how effective it is.
 
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