Shape Shifter/Wolf Help

[BAMFSpecialOps]

IAS not on the ribcracker wont help u at all, so shael it, ow/ds/cb and the such is capped at 100%, which is not really needed anythin above 50% will work fine, like i said ive never used dracs on any char in pvm, but id say if u have life tap and a lil leech ull be fine, i only had leech, and survived just fine, i used a cathans ring for only 6% and with 5 hits from fury, good dmg on those, ull leech back fine, with ribcracker and dungos...what about jalals gives 30% fhr and u could shael that to hit the 86 bp, dont worry if u go over some it wont hurt you at all, well as long as u dont load up on only fhr like shael everythin, as long as ur char is balanced ur wolfie will do just fine, my set up iirc for my first druid was, coh/jalals/lava*before i remembered Oias doesnt help*/angelic ring/ammy/cathans ring/gores/dungo/bonehew*2 shaels* and i did just fine, here and there got a lil hard/scary watchin life bulb drop but go back up...didnt use a merc...didnt have any summon other than oak...now ur makin me want to make a ribby wolfie...if i could only get an upped ribby on nl east these days : (

 

[aceshigh]

I just realized something !!

maybe im makin this harder then i think. I believe everyone agrees, that if ur gona have a merc give it reapers toll for the decrip curse. But if i use dracs the tap will override decrip. So if i want decrip casted, i cant use dracs.

So ill prolly use string of ears then. This and noseferatu has LL, but nos has ias which wont be counted (if i understand correctly), and string still had the dr etc.

And as for gloves:

LOH (For the reasons given by mustermann on page1).

i was lookin at other gloves like venomgrip, bloodfist, grave etc none of which will appear to help me, being as they either have a curse that could overrive decrip. or they focus on fhr, cb (which i already have plenty from ribcracker/gore/jalals n shael runes) or focus on ias which will not be counted!

Guess one of the final things im still debatin on is duress vs. fort

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

LOH are very nice
soul drainers also have LL if u really want/need more
u could try both, duress is pretty cheap and see what u like better, or maybe barrow one from someone on here and try them out, i cant say which is better since never tried duress, sorry for not bein much help
good luck on ur wolf and keep the questions coming if needed lol

 

[aceshigh]

Ya, i got duress and fort. got all the gear i would need just figurin out which to use.

I did see soul drainers, only problem there is the chance to cast weaken will override decrip = /

Thanks for the look out though !

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

good catch, i forgot about the chance to cast weaken lol

id say just try both armors out and see which u like better, id guess fort tho ive used it and loved it

 

[frums]

theres no real harm with lifetap overriding decrep, decrep will recast soon enough, overriding lifetap again
imo using dracs in pvm is really worth it, since there are quite a few monsters that are immune to leech, but not to lt.
and duress >< fort: theyll both do fine.

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

most of the monsters that are immune to leech, the LOH would come in and deal that extra dmg fast enough to put them down, i guess its like the armor...personal choice

 

[mustermann]

#2
The Skels are down that fast with decrep that u wont be able to leech^^

In pvp dracs are nice just because of open wounds.

But in pvm loh is the best until u have open wound/cb crafts!

 

[Verashiden]

Er, Life Tap leeches on the attack causing it to trigger. So you'll always refill your bulb before decrep triggers again. Dracs > LoH for anything other than Demon killing. Even then I'd take Dracs for bosses.

 

[mustermann]

well tell my wich species the act bosses are?
i think they are all demons.

 

[Cubbie]

yes, they are all demons. actually demon lords ; )
i also tried LoH and draculs, and prefer the latter in general play. i really like to leech the unleechables.

 

[aceshigh]

Er, Life Tap leeches on the attack causing it to trigger. So you'll always refill your bulb before decrep triggers again. Dracs > LoH for anything other than Demon killing. Even then I'd take Dracs for bosses.

That is a valid point. But my concern is not refillin the bulb (even though that is key), but rather the decrip is my only way to kill phys immune. When tap kicks in i no longer do dmg to the P.I.


Also, in regards to mustermann's glove comment. I agree with you on usin LOH cause of the boss dmg it would lead to not to mention nice fire res. But in terms of needin cb or ow. Ill have between Ribby, Duress and gore way more then enough cb and decent ow.

I know it all boils down to preference just hopin to get insight from people who may have tried these different options before. Everyones comments have been extremely helpful !

 

[Verashiden]

Yeah, but you're ignoring the fact that Reaper has a CtC of 33% while Dracs has 5%. They'll be tapped for quite literally less than a second before decrep reapplies.

I'd still take Dracs over LoH >.>

 

[BAMFSpecialOps]

as Verashiden said decrep casts enough that lifetap wont over ride it everytime, and if lifetap does cast then ull be able to get ur life up from that, and watch decrep cast again soon enough

 

[mustermann]

well but if i fight skeletons they are down sooner than 2seconds.
I did Radament without fullreq potions only with the ones i found and it worked well so why loose nice fire resist and damage(adds perfect to the lr from hl) for some more not needet ll?
The thing with the 5vs33percent is that i dont know the atack speed of the merc but i got 4fpa so i think i hit easy 5times as much as the merc does.
25vs33percent looks different.

_but_playing with lt and merc with obedience is an option i want to try this night or tomorrow.
Obedience+treachery=nice speed and nice damage. Leech doesnt matter then because the merc can leech well with lt.
+i wont have to care about feral rage if it takes longer than 20seconds to kill a mob

 

[aceshigh]

Verashiden: i did not think of it like that you have an excellent point. If thats the case (and i went with dracs) would i then want to use string of ears stil (i think i member u mention u prefered it to dungo -80ish life)--other then string/dungo i duno what to consider. Noseferatu wun be much help, off weap ias dun get counted and the slow target meh.

mustermann also has a good point though, would i be attackin that much faster then the merc?

Also whats more beneficial, holy freeze or might. with freeze i get the crowd control and i get hit less which is nice cause i wont have a shield (ribcracker). But might could add some nice dmg and with life tap (assumin i have dracs) i would not care so much bout bein hit.

 

[Verashiden]

I'd still use SoE, however, remember that that's from a HC perspective. In that world, you can never have too much LL. Softcore it doesn't really matter >.>.

And you will be attacking faster than a Merc. However, from my experience it's not an issue (I was using Shael/Shael/Amn Tomby so 6/4 Fury). Tap triggered, you finished one Fury, Decrep triggers, you kill immediate mob, move on.

I personally used HF Merc. IMO Crowd Control > Damage, especially against the likes of a Frenzytaur pack.

Muster: Because there's some situations where LT is essential. Example, Stone Skin + Extra Strong monster. Even if it is a Demon type the extra damage won't speed up the process by much. Besides, for any creature not a Demon you don't get anything from LoH, unless you count that CtC Holy Bolt >.>. If you want something that does extra damage to Demons get a CoH .

 

[mustermann]

i will get one as soon as i sold some items.

but only for uber trist

I think i will go for the real best and get some craftet gloves (the gloves i can buy and rubys arent more than pg at europe, same with nef)

3ll, 10cb, 20stats if only perfect craft. +stats would be nice though i mainly want the cb with my 4fpa (some mana leech would be uber cuz i could wear 2xraven or stats ring then)

 

[aceshigh]

Now for obvious reasons:
im gona max ww lycran and fury

should i max oak, feral and or cyclone armor

Im guessin cyclone armor is a 1 point thing for this build, oak should be maxed before feral rage (all final points fill up feral rage). Right? and is it worth gettin wolves bears with this build. As i mentioned before i know wolves take hits for teleing wind druids, but would i actually benefit from the added friends = /

I guess im also assumin oak is the spirit to go with... maybe the other one for AR or no?

On a side note: i agree with both mustermann and verashiden on the glove aspect, but for different scenarios. I currently use the fire/melee sorc (by dreamofwinter: sorc forum sticky) for ubers. And laying of hands is by far dominant in uber trist (for takin down the bosses themselves). But for general game play and more so a safety reason (with added OW) i think i may go with dracs.

 

[aceshigh]

Something else to ponder:

what would it take for someone to swap out jalal for cerebus bite:

i will already have 90FHR (50 ribby, 40 duress)
the AR on cerebus > Jala
More LL and OW

Cons:
20str/eng lost
i can um the cerebus for res but it wun be the 30 (easily made up in charms)
oak sage will be 2 points weaker.