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"Satanist" being discriminated against?

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  1. SnickerSnack

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    "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    This would be awesome if not for the unfortunate rape/murder involved:

    http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/2010/07/06/14625601.html

    (article text quoted below)

    So, there's this guy, and he raped/murdered some girl, and now he's whining about being "discriminated" against because of his religion. At first, I thought that was silly, but after reading the article....

    If I were in a position to decide, I'd disbar the prosecution and the judges involved for obvious (blatant, and unreserved) religious persecution, and I'd still put the guy behind bars for the rest of his life (assuming there is good evidence) [I'm not too sure about the whole death penalty thing, but if we're going to allow that penalty in general, I think this offense warrants it].

    Sure, I'd let him have his religious trappings at his own expense, but I'm not sure that allowing someone to bring human blood into a prison is a good idea. At that point, maybe he should have thought about that before he raped/murdered some girl?

    If you were a judge, how would you handle this case? Death row? Allow religious doodads? Allow human blood in the prison?

    If you're the bar association, should the prosecution/judges face any penalties?

    Disclaimer: I read a bit about the "church of satan", and it seemed pretty good to me, with the very little amount of time I put into researching it. I'm not the religious sort, so I didn't put anymore time into it. Of course, just about any religion seems pretty good when you only put ~15 minutes into reading their website. :)
     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    texas
    death sentence

    nuff said


    I tend to disregard any other factors in his sentence when he's in Texas as that tends to outweigh anything else
     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    I'm stunned. :rolleyes:

    If a "church", be it Satanism or Atheism, admires "do as thou wilst" as a commandment and "an ye harm none" is tacked on as an afterthought, it is relevant in court. If this was about a Christian gone looney hacking up atheists, abortionists, or blasphemers with a silver broadsword, you can bet your arse that the religious belief would be considered admissible. Just because a doctrine of selfishness and hatred attracts selfish, hateful people doesn't mean it's inadmissible.

    Off-thread, I'm more than amused by the fact that Wicca has been outed as a sham from it's inception than by open sociopathy being labeled a religion by a defense attorney.



     
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    Wow. So now judges can determine what a "true" religion is. Good to know.
     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    Seems the case was based on the fact he did murder. He must pay for that.

    Yeah, death row.

    Doodads.... his book would be it.



     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    EDIT: NM, I can't read, apparently.

    Alright, so if I have this straight this time, he was convicted of the crime before his religious views were known. That's good.

    His religious views have only come into light during the sentencing phase, and could influence whether or not he gets the death penalty. That's bad.
    Meh, he'll probably just make a knife out of it.

    I'm not sure what kind of books they allow the prisoners to keep in cell, but if they would allow Bibles, I guess they have to allow his too.
     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    The hilarious thing is that the judges doesn't even know anything about The Church of Satan.
     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    Enlighten us.
    It's not all church burnings and goat sacrifices, is it?



     
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    Oh? I had a Wicca roommate in college, so I'd be interested in what info you had on that.

    On the Satanist in prison, I'm with Amra. The book and that's it, depending on prison policy.

    Its pretty much everything you'd expect from a bunch of goth kids who never grew up. Orgies, drugs, blood, poor fashion sense, etc. Along with every satanic image imaginable.
     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    [​IMG]



     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    that bastard KILLED and RAPED a LITTLE GIRL (ok, not little, but y'all get my point). he should fry in hell (or maybe live in a place that he hates. they say that hell is only what you make of it. ;)) for what he did or better yet be raped himself. eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth, and nail for ****ing nail. and he gets every bit of what he deserves.

    as for his religious views... ok, the judge was a bit harsh. i am not a Satanist, but religious views shouldn't have gotten in the way. he still killed someone, he needs to pay for what he did.

    and to metal cartoon fans.... "This is the Church of Satan, ok? Not a paper wastebasket." XD does anyone else see the Church of Satan like that after watching that episode of Metalocalypse?
     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html

    Enlighten yourself.



     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    he's in Texas, he gets the death penalty, ignore superfluous factors like religion

    TEXAS, PEOPLE



     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    I hate reading, I don't even know how to do it, I'm getting my mom to type this right now and she's reading the posts to me.



     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    if you had a typing monkey you could just post without caring what the previous posts said, thats how the pros do it



     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    My mom wants me to learn though, so I have to post and stuff and like, understand stuff.



     
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    but then the monkey might start typing Shakespeare so Turb's sexy mother is the best option. hehe! :eyelash:
     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    So how was I supposed to enlighten you if you don't want to read anything?



     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    My mom reads to me, but she says for any non-dii thread, I have to read it myself.



     
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    Re: "Satanist" being discriminated against?

    It's okay Turb. We're here to help.

    The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog.

    Now your turn =D
     

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