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Sandstorm Trek vs War Travs for Avenger

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by Rius666, Mar 10, 2004.

  1. Rius666

    Rius666 IncGamers Member

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    Sandstorm Trek vs War Travs for Avenger

    I'm trying to figure which pair of boots would be better for an avenger pally, sandstorm or war travs. Sandstorms have +10-15 str/vit with 20% faster run and a lot of poison resist. War travs have 25% faster run and +10 str/vit along with adding 15-25 phy dmg, which is nice. Just trying to get an opinion from a pally expert. :worship:
     
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    Another factor in using War Travs is the 30-50% MF. Since Paladins are usually not pressed for resists, War Travs is more useful because of the added min and max damage, which is amplified by the Paladin's aura, Merc's aura, strength, off-weapon ED%, etc. It is however not effected by on-weapon ED%.
     
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    i'd go with war travs myself.
     
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    If u want to choose between these boots, then wt is the way to go. Personally i use goreriders.
     
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    You forget sandstorms also have FHR...
     
  6. Rius666

    Rius666 IncGamers Member

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    ya i forgot about the fhr part but im using travs right now so i guess im good :)
     
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    definitly use war travs, its good 4 everything really
     
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    Probably also depends on the goal of the char. Im building mine to support my friends mf char (fire/cold sorc with 500mf). This avengers only purpose is to weaken the living daylight out of everything in mf runs. It wont do the actually killing. In that sence fhr/more str-vita/huge psn res doesnt seem bad.
     
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    War travs seem to be by far the best boots for an avenger. Putting it on increases by average dmg from 1.8 k to 2.1k, more than a 10% increase. The mf is just icing, unless you really have no resists, then rares will do better.
     
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    I'm not positive it works with Vengeance, but I always thought it did.

    War Travs damage= More physical damage= More Vengeance damage= even more damage after Conviction

    I think that +15-25 damage is added on to your weapons damage, allowing it to be multiplied by Vengeance up to 10x or so. Since Evanta is saying damage goes from 1.8k to 2.1k with the boots, I'd say I was right.

    Gores are nice too, Crushing Blow and Open Wounds are just great.

    I like Sandstorm Treks a lot, but I would have to say they are not as good as Gores/Travs in my book.
     
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    i would also go with war travlers.

    but myself i use aldurs advance for boots.

    but then again i need then as i use andariels visage
     
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    k thx for the input guys this helps a lot and put to rest my confusion. :)
     
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    I've just made a test with my Zealot:
    Str: 175 (naked)
    Weapon: 175-205 Ethereal Phase Blade with +7 psn damage.
    Vengeance: +72% to each element.
    No other damage source.

    Without WT: 866-1011 Vengeance damage
    With WT: 956-1157 Vengeance damage

    Let's analize this:
    Without WT:
    175 * 2.75 = 481
    205 * 2.75 = 563
    Physical damage: 481-563
    175 * 0.72 = 126
    205 * 0.72 = 147
    Each element: 126-147
    Total elemental damage: 378-441

    Total min damage = 481 + 378 + 7(psn) = 886
    Total max damage = 563 + 441 + 7(psn) = 1011
    The same damage than character screen (as expected)


    With WT: (Supposing +dam doesn't count for Vengeance)
    (175+15) * (2.75+0.1(WT str)) = 541
    (205+25) * (2.75+0.1(WT str)) = 655
    Physical damage: 541-655
    175 * 0.72 = 126
    205 * 0.72 = 147
    Each element: 126-147
    Total elemental damage: 378-441

    Total min damage = 541 + 378 + 7(psn) = 926
    Total max damage = 655 + 441 + 7(psn) = 1103
    Not the same damage than character screen :scratch:


    With WT: (Supposing +dam counts for Vengeance)
    (175+15) * (2.75+0.1(WT str)) = 541
    (205+25) * (2.75+0.1(WT str)) = 655
    Physical damage: 541-655
    (175+15) * 0.72 = 136
    (205+25) * 0.72 = 165
    Each element: 136-165
    Total elemental damage: 408-495

    Total min damage = 541 + 408 + 7(psn) = 956
    Total max damage = 655 + 495 + 7(psn) = 1157
    The same damage than character screen!!! :surprise:

    Conclusion:
    +damage off-weapon counts for Vengeance damage.

    (I think we need to change FAQ :D)
     
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    wow thx for the calcs lobo. im glad someone did this since im just a lazy bum and will never do it. :)
     

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