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Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Amra, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. Amra

    Amra IncGamers Member

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    Same Sex Marriage

    It's in the news here in the USA. It is in that context that I start this discussion. Although I would think the situation is similar in most democracies and civilized countries.

    The state of California, by popular vote on a measure called Proposition 8, banned same sex marriages some time ago.

    On Wednesday a judge overturned that. Good for him. Good for freedom.

    USA = Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. So I read somewhere.

    I am no legal scholar. But quotes like this (from someone unhappy with the judge) make me mad:

    7 million. hmmm.... that begs the question of what is an acceptable number? 700,000? 7,000? 1?

    I do believe in strength in numbers but individual rights must be respected. If two people of the same sex wish to live together, share legal assets, and grow old with each other, who are others to say no?

    The word marriage does generally mean it's between a man and a woman. I get that. So call it a legal union or whatever when it applies to same sex. I just think that if someone wants to live their life with someone of the same sex, they should be allowed to. I don't think the sky is going to fall because of it.
     
  2. Ash Housewares

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    if we've learned anything lately
    its who gives a **** about the opinion of somebody from arizona
     
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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    ^_^

    10 chars
     
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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

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    Same sex marriage is okay.

    /thread.
     
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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    I just wanted to post here. Hi
     
  7. Talga Vasternich

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    I couldn't agree more with these statements. :thumbsup:



     
  8. Technomancer

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    This is good news, but don't break out the champagne yet, it's gonna go all the way to the Supreme Court, and who knows how that'll turn out.
     
  9. Amra

    Amra IncGamers Member

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    The judge is from Arizona? I knew he was *** but I didn't know that.

    I thought there was a thread and I did search for it. I just didn't search for asterisks. Silly me.

    Besides, this is the OTF. Almost all topics get recycled. But this is an evolving legal issue.

    Agreed.

    I am actually surprised that Obama is against same sex marriage. He took a beating on the news last night.



     
  10. Ash Housewares

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    just because I make silly posts doesn't mean you have to be an idiot when you respond to them



     
  11. stillman

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    Traditional family values? You mean old farts buried in the cemetary telling us how to do things? Think about it.

    People are too clingy with their ancient papers from the old fart days dictating how everything should go. They need to rewrite everything based on modern science. Just rewrite it all very carefully and print it off on 8 by 11 sheets of paper, signing it with a ballpoint pen instead of dyed donkey jizz or w/e they used back when jet engines did not exist.
     
  12. Ash Housewares

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    better write it in pencil unless you're subscribing to the belief that modern science has everything right and will never progress
     
  13. SaroDarksbane

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    Fixed that for you.

    Then, the word "marriage" is up to individual interpretation and everyone can get along without having the government tell us what makes a marriage valid.



     
  14. SnickerSnack

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    This whole thing would be solved by the government just ignoring the word "marriage". (Which has been said in this thread and others.)

    One group wants to use the word, and another doesn't want to share, so like any good parent the govt should throw its hands up and say "Fine! No state recognized marriage for anyone! You all get civil unions!"
     
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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    [​IMG]


     
  16. Talga Vasternich

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    There is unrest in the forest
    There is trouble with the trees
    For the maples want more sunlight
    And the oaks ignore their pleas

    The trouble with the maples
    (And they're quite convinced they're right)
    They say the oaks are just too lofty
    And they grab up all the light
    But the oaks can't help their feelings
    If they like the way they're made
    And they wonder why the maples
    Can't be happy in their shade

    There is trouble in the forest
    And the creatures all have fled
    As the maples scream 'Oppression!'
    And the oaks just shake their heads

    So the maples formed a union
    And demanded equal rights
    'The oaks are just too greedy
    We will make them give us light'
    Now there's no more oak oppression
    For they passed a noble law
    And the trees are all kept equal
    By hatchet, axe and saw




     
  17. SaroDarksbane

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    Not sure what your point is.

    People are inherently not equal in their private lives, but they absolutely should be equal before the law.



     
  18. Talga Vasternich

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    I know your opinion about this, but why should something be taken away from a group so that everyone can be "equal"?
    Seems the same thing can be accomplished without taking anything away.



     
  19. SaroDarksbane

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    Re: Same Sex Marriage

    Who would we be "taking away from" by packaging a set of convenient legal privileges into an arrangement called "civil unions" for any two people who want to take advantage of it?



     
  20. SnickerSnack

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    Indeed. Moreover, what is it that's being taken away?

    @nurman: That is the most awesome approval I have ever gotten. Decent movie too.


     

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