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Rumsfeld: out of office, into trouble?

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by bg1256, Nov 15, 2006.

  1. bg1256

    bg1256 IncGamers Member

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    Rumsfeld: out of office, into trouble?

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    I doubt much will come of this, but if the lawyers follow through, it seems like it could be ugly.
     
  2. Dondrei

    Dondrei IncGamers Member

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    I doubt he will respond if summonsed.
     
  3. MinasMorgul

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    Well, the footnote of "Convicted of War Crimes under German Law" can't look good. Of course it beats the rest of your life in a prison.

     
  4. Dondrei

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    Can they try him in absentia?
     
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    In This particular case, I don't know. But Germany has in the past convicted people in absentia, mostly for crimes that happened during WWII though.

    I'm not familiar with German law.
     
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    I see ya'll have eliminated any chance that he might not be guilty, eh?
     
  7. Syxx

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    Hi Borty,

    Gitmo exists, Videos of US soldiers doing 'naughty' things to prisoners exist, The US Governemt wanting laws to permit torture and bypass the Geneva Convention exist.

    All these things happened under "his watch". Shouldn't he be held accountable ? Isn't that what the saying, "The buck stops here" means ? I think people are getting rather tired of the "Mr Bigs" of this world screwing around and continueously getting away with it.

    No one has eliminationed the chance he may be innocent. Many just don't feel that is the case, kind of like OJ ...

    Regards
    Syxx



     
  8. Bortaz

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    Well, I'd have thought all you leftists would have been more keen on the old "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" thing, but I guess that only applies to child rapists and terrorists.
     
  9. Drosselmeier

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    Has he been thrown in jail already? I didn't think so. One day when I have an ocean of time on my hands I'll try to explain the difference between action and belief to you.



     
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    Not necessarily.

    They may have just eliminated any chance that the German courts wouldn't convict him, given the chance.



     
  11. Syxx

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    Hi mate,

    Is that they way you do thing in Bortazland ? I don't see anyone else posting in this thread that only rapists and terrorists are "innocent until proven guilty in a court of law" ?

    But I am curious as you seem to be defending Rummy. Do you think he has anything to answer for ? What's you opinion of his performance as Secretary of Defence ?

    Regards
    Syxx
    (PS I'm only a partial-lefty, some of my opinions are rather conservative)



     
  12. Dondrei

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    It's hard for me to say whether he's innocent or guilty until I know exactly what the charges are going to be. Sounds to me like they're going to be overly ambitious.
     
  13. Drosselmeier

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    Bortaz is just posting the standard slander routine used to drag focus away from the issue at hand.

    Being critical of the Bush administration = being a liberal = being a terrorist sympathizer/sex crimes supporter.

    So, you see, it's not about what Rumsfeld might possibly have done wrong or wether someone who's suspected of a crime should be tried in court. It's about liberals being traitors and perverts.



     
  14. llad12

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    Why Bort wouldn't do that ...

    OK, maybe he would. :grin:

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    Personally, I think Rumy should have his day in court ... along with Dubya.


    The Raw Story



     
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    As I recalled, Bush denied Abu prison tortures to the press.

    Then the next day while at an oval office meeting, Rummy told Bush that the reports were true to which Bush went nuts, because Bush had to learn of the scandal from the press instead of from his commanders.

    This implied that Rummy knew of the activities at Abu and did nothing to stop it. As secretary of defense, Rummy is charged with a duty to stop war crimes. He didn't. And he kept it from Bush, his commander in chief.

    So draw your own conclusion.
     
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    Seems like Rumsfeld is going to be the scapegoat for the Bush administration.
     
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    It's a small group of nutjobs that are trying to use German law to prosecute him. Germany stands to lose a lot if they go forward with this. We could very well pull our entire military force out of Germany. Many of us want that to happen anyway. Now is as good a time as any.
     
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    My point is that the members of this very forum get all in a huff when it's even implied that terrorists (and we've also had Smeg massacred over child molestors) should be detained without a fair trial, and now they're, to a man, jumping to the conclusion that Rumsfeld is guilty and should be in jail. All you freedom lovers should be railing against this, like you do when it's not someone you hate that's being treated this way. Be consistent.

    As far as my opinion of Rumsfeld goes: I think he did a rather ****ty job as SecDef and should have been fired years ago.
     
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    What do you expect out of a bunch of libs? Fairness? :laugh:
     
  20. llad12

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    Well, at the very least, I think the whole lot of 'em should be tarred, feathered, and run out of Washington DC on a rail. :laugh:



     

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