rolling?
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comicalflop
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Make sure to make your runeword when stading on the steps northwest of the waypoint in act 5 as close to the middle as you can
Diab
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The relation of the word "rolling" to runewords is the same as the relation of the word "cubing" to charms.
"Rolling" when referred to runewords, is defined as the process of creating a runeword multiple times. Since most runewords have a few modifiers that can vary per "roll", the purpose of this is usually to try to get a good, high stat on a modifier.
The way to do this, would be to put the right runes into the item in the right order, to make the runeword, and then if you want to "roll" it again, you just use the unsocket recipe and try it again. Take note that the unsocket recipe destroys all the runes within the runeword, so rolling a runewords is often an expensive process.
Any and all things you might have heard about standing on some place in a specific location, or doing something else while rolling, are nothing but mere rumors, and are false.
"Rolling" when referred to runewords, is defined as the process of creating a runeword multiple times. Since most runewords have a few modifiers that can vary per "roll", the purpose of this is usually to try to get a good, high stat on a modifier.
The way to do this, would be to put the right runes into the item in the right order, to make the runeword, and then if you want to "roll" it again, you just use the unsocket recipe and try it again. Take note that the unsocket recipe destroys all the runes within the runeword, so rolling a runewords is often an expensive process.
Any and all things you might have heard about standing on some place in a specific location, or doing something else while rolling, are nothing but mere rumors, and are false.
Re: rolling?
Eh, not really. "Rolling" is a term relating to the numbers that vary on an item. you roll a high one, meaning.. for death. you can roll 300-385... your talking about "Rerolling" items in the cube. Eg, 3 Pgems + magic item "rerolls" the stats on that item. or hell + TP+ runeword allows you to reroll a runeword.
so in general. Rolling a high one, just refers to receiving a high value out of X amount of choices. :whistling:
Eh, not really. "Rolling" is a term relating to the numbers that vary on an item. you roll a high one, meaning.. for death. you can roll 300-385... your talking about "Rerolling" items in the cube. Eg, 3 Pgems + magic item "rerolls" the stats on that item. or hell + TP+ runeword allows you to reroll a runeword.
so in general. Rolling a high one, just refers to receiving a high value out of X amount of choices. :whistling:
ThomasJohnsen
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Re: rolling?
#EDIT: So to roll a 385ed Death you'll ned on average 85 x (Hel + El + Vex + Ort + Gul) in addition to the 84 Hels needed to unsocket every time.
No! Diabolico x64 is exactly right - short and to the point.
#EDIT: So to roll a 385ed Death you'll ned on average 85 x (Hel + El + Vex + Ort + Gul) in addition to the 84 Hels needed to unsocket every time.
Re: rolling?
Diabloico was confusing 2 different terms/concepts as one.
lol? what the hell are you talking about , 85 sets of runes. reread my post. i didn't say anything like that.
Diabloico was confusing 2 different terms/concepts as one.
ThomasJohnsen
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And I repeat my statement: He was right - short and to the point!
He wasn't confusing anything - he was merely comparing the process of rolling runewords to that of cubing magic items (in that it takes a lot of tries to get a perfect runeword/charm).
The 85 sets was mentioned first by me, to explain to you the amount of runes (and wealth) is required for rolling a perfect Death (and actually I was wrong - 86 sets are needed on average!). The most common runeword rolling is Spirit - 11 packs are needed on average to roll 35fcr. This is a very common practise and spirit packs with Hel are sold in large bulks on the trade forums quite often.
I just reread both Diablolico's and your posts.
And I repeat my statement: He was right - short and to the point!
He wasn't confusing anything - he was merely comparing the process of rolling runewords to that of cubing magic items (in that it takes a lot of tries to get a perfect runeword/charm).
The 85 sets was mentioned first by me, to explain to you the amount of runes (and wealth) is required for rolling a perfect Death (and actually I was wrong - 86 sets are needed on average!). The most common runeword rolling is Spirit - 11 packs are needed on average to roll 35fcr. This is a very common practise and spirit packs with Hel are sold in large bulks on the trade forums quite often.
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Re: rolling?
It's a dodgy comparison and I agree with Craiazy. "Rolling" simply refers to the invisible "dice roll" that takes place behind the scenes when a variable is decided on. Re-rolling is the act of attempting to re-create an item for whatever purpose, typically to increase a mod.
For example;
"I am going to make a "Death" axe, I hope I roll a perfect result!"
"I rolled a crappy "Death" axe.
I guess I'll try to re-roll it when I can afford the runes."
It's a dodgy comparison and I agree with Craiazy. "Rolling" simply refers to the invisible "dice roll" that takes place behind the scenes when a variable is decided on. Re-rolling is the act of attempting to re-create an item for whatever purpose, typically to increase a mod.
For example;
"I am going to make a "Death" axe, I hope I roll a perfect result!"
"I rolled a crappy "Death" axe.
I guess I'll try to re-roll it when I can afford the runes."Re: rolling?
I only responded to an answered post bc of the miss conception of what "to roll meant". it is not the act of placing anything into the cube for a second try. I find all your post redundant and now a waste of my time to respond to. Reply if you may, but you obviously misunderstood the original question behind the thread in the first place.:coffee:
Again you fail to realize why i posted. Diabloico refers "rolling" as the processing of cubing a runeword to try again (This is in-fact commonly referred to as rerolling, entirely not related). The original poster,to whom diabloico was talking to, simply asked what "to roll" meant, not rerolling with the use of the cube. This was answered before, as it is to just make a runeword. And your 85-6 sets of runes to make a perfect is too obvious in theory, yet unrealistic. one can "roll" a perfect with one set or Reroll it 500 times to get a perfect. hence its random and cannot be said that 86 "rerolls" at most/minimum will grant a perfect. You say on average, yet you mean in theory.
I only responded to an answered post bc of the miss conception of what "to roll meant". it is not the act of placing anything into the cube for a second try. I find all your post redundant and now a waste of my time to respond to. Reply if you may, but you obviously misunderstood the original question behind the thread in the first place.:coffee:
HarbyHarby
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Re: rolling?
Nice attitude mate. And supreme maths knowledge as well.
Nice attitude mate. And supreme maths knowledge as well.
Re: rolling?
Thanks for the sarcasm though.:whistling:
Yeah i know. Attitude comes with repeated ignorance. Hard to not try to surpass in this case. Math, no math… Vague speculation to try to prove a point :\
Thanks for the sarcasm though.:whistling:
ThomasJohnsen
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Re: rolling?
Allright - let's just agree to disagree then.
I guess the term rolling has a different meaning for various people.
I have heard the term used often regarding a few different subjects.
I understand the meaning of the word rolling in regards to runewords exactly the same way as Diabolico, and your understanding of the word differs. But lets not split hairs about this - there really isn't any point in debating the meaning of a word.
In the OP the question was:
Allright - let's just agree to disagree then.
I guess the term rolling has a different meaning for various people.
I have heard the term used often regarding a few different subjects.
I understand the meaning of the word rolling in regards to runewords exactly the same way as Diabolico, and your understanding of the word differs. But lets not split hairs about this - there really isn't any point in debating the meaning of a word.
In the OP the question was:
...and the question was answered here
Regards Tom