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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/11041384204?page=1#0
Please explain to me why the old vanilla'ish lvl 60 items with trifecta are way better then 95% of expansion lvl 70 items ? Whats the purpose of expansion then ? (Im not even talking about PTR in which you will never find an upgrade)
I dont really understand. Ive seen a LOT of players who stream using old trifecta items and cannot find upgrade. And if they find the new items they need to be close to trifecta stats. With the current iteration of RoS Loot 2.0 doesnt stand much chances. You went for raw numbers and raw damage over varying choices. The amount of primary stats (reduced compared to vanilla) backs this statement.
We definitly need more affixes, more FUN affixes over just numbers. Expand the affix pool and leave the old number of primary affixes on items. Legendary items are a step in right direction with the special affixes. But 99% of legendary items roll terrible stats and arent even worth rerolling at mystic (of course we still talking about players who own trifecta stuff from vanilla). And again im not even talking about legendaries that roll 2 (so stupid!) primary affixes being armor and skill damage for example. That shouldnt happen. Legendaries should be legendary, they should have more affixes then rare items.
Loot 2.0 is a big step back compared to vanilla. We all play to find NICE loot. And for me nice loot means interesting loot not bigger numbers. I dont understand the nerf to trifecta and items affixes overall. Why not changing some game mechanics to give monsters a way to counter trifecta. Like make some affixes on monsters that enrage them when critically hitted or reflect 50% of critical dmg back to attacker (scaled to character hp) or that spawns something when being critically hit. That would make people chances to rethink they strategy over just stacking 2-3 affixes.
I remember you saying that with RoS defensive affixes will matter. I have yet to see this. Noone even think about rerolling vit into armor for example, or armor into life per sec, or vit into life on hit. Everyone just look at the number first on the list - damage. You should rework how armor works. Why i cannot make a tanky character who will stand still and facetank like 3 packs of elites (of course sacrificing some damage) and still succeed ? Ok, you kinda can do it with crusader but why not with other classes ?
Or why its so fricking hard now to get item for example for barb with str + dex if i want more dodge ? This whole loot 2.0 and smart drops actually limit your character and the ways you could go.
Also you should try reworking the main stats. Like dex/int/vit/str all to give 1 offensive stat and 1 defensive stats depending on the class you play. And that way you could add for items main stat + off stat rolls for smart drops.
For example for wizard:
- int - damage / res (its ok like it is now)
- dex - crit chance / dodge
- vit - chance for random special effects on hit (bleeding/chilled/frozen/arcane blast/burning) / health
- str - splash dmg radius and % damage / armor
For barb:
- int - chance to enrage on hit (1 stack inreasing dmg by 1% up to 20 stacks) / res
- dex - life on hit / block and dodge increase but both half value of other classes
- vit - execute chance (kill a monster that have less then 30% hp) / health
- str - damage / armor
For demon hunter:
- int - damage / res
- dex - move speed / evasive manouvers on hit (1 stack increasing dodge by 1% up to 20 stacks)
- vit - health regeneration % based on missing health / health
- str - chance to do double damage or hit twice per attack / armor
For witch doctor:
- int - damage and chance on hit to summon a fetish / res
- dex - chance to ignore target defense and resistances / chance to be protected with bone shield when taking damage
- vit - increased pet health and damage / health
- str - chance to cast poison nova on hit / armor
If you would make every stat viable for each character that would be soooo cool. What do you guys/gals think ?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/11041384204?page=1#0
Please explain to me why the old vanilla'ish lvl 60 items with trifecta are way better then 95% of expansion lvl 70 items ? Whats the purpose of expansion then ? (Im not even talking about PTR in which you will never find an upgrade)
I dont really understand. Ive seen a LOT of players who stream using old trifecta items and cannot find upgrade. And if they find the new items they need to be close to trifecta stats. With the current iteration of RoS Loot 2.0 doesnt stand much chances. You went for raw numbers and raw damage over varying choices. The amount of primary stats (reduced compared to vanilla) backs this statement.
We definitly need more affixes, more FUN affixes over just numbers. Expand the affix pool and leave the old number of primary affixes on items. Legendary items are a step in right direction with the special affixes. But 99% of legendary items roll terrible stats and arent even worth rerolling at mystic (of course we still talking about players who own trifecta stuff from vanilla). And again im not even talking about legendaries that roll 2 (so stupid!) primary affixes being armor and skill damage for example. That shouldnt happen. Legendaries should be legendary, they should have more affixes then rare items.
Loot 2.0 is a big step back compared to vanilla. We all play to find NICE loot. And for me nice loot means interesting loot not bigger numbers. I dont understand the nerf to trifecta and items affixes overall. Why not changing some game mechanics to give monsters a way to counter trifecta. Like make some affixes on monsters that enrage them when critically hitted or reflect 50% of critical dmg back to attacker (scaled to character hp) or that spawns something when being critically hit. That would make people chances to rethink they strategy over just stacking 2-3 affixes.
I remember you saying that with RoS defensive affixes will matter. I have yet to see this. Noone even think about rerolling vit into armor for example, or armor into life per sec, or vit into life on hit. Everyone just look at the number first on the list - damage. You should rework how armor works. Why i cannot make a tanky character who will stand still and facetank like 3 packs of elites (of course sacrificing some damage) and still succeed ? Ok, you kinda can do it with crusader but why not with other classes ?
Or why its so fricking hard now to get item for example for barb with str + dex if i want more dodge ? This whole loot 2.0 and smart drops actually limit your character and the ways you could go.
Also you should try reworking the main stats. Like dex/int/vit/str all to give 1 offensive stat and 1 defensive stats depending on the class you play. And that way you could add for items main stat + off stat rolls for smart drops.
For example for wizard:
- int - damage / res (its ok like it is now)
- dex - crit chance / dodge
- vit - chance for random special effects on hit (bleeding/chilled/frozen/arcane blast/burning) / health
- str - splash dmg radius and % damage / armor
For barb:
- int - chance to enrage on hit (1 stack inreasing dmg by 1% up to 20 stacks) / res
- dex - life on hit / block and dodge increase but both half value of other classes
- vit - execute chance (kill a monster that have less then 30% hp) / health
- str - damage / armor
For demon hunter:
- int - damage / res
- dex - move speed / evasive manouvers on hit (1 stack increasing dodge by 1% up to 20 stacks)
- vit - health regeneration % based on missing health / health
- str - chance to do double damage or hit twice per attack / armor
For witch doctor:
- int - damage and chance on hit to summon a fetish / res
- dex - chance to ignore target defense and resistances / chance to be protected with bone shield when taking damage
- vit - increased pet health and damage / health
- str - chance to cast poison nova on hit / armor
If you would make every stat viable for each character that would be soooo cool. What do you guys/gals think ?