Resurrecting HC characters
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Risingred
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
AFS, what do you have against the idea?
Well...okay. I'm not going to sit here and argue such a petty concept.
AFS, what do you have against the idea?
Re: Resurrecting HC characters
Others have already argued that having this defeats the purpose of HC. Also, think of the implications this can have on the D3 economy. You have the same item on the same realm, but it used to be HC so it should be worth more? You pay to resurrect your character, but it loses a lot of its true value. This option would be reduced to a sentimentality.
Honestly, it seems like a cheap and gimmicky way to hustle more money out of the consumer, similar to those extra suits or colour palettes that you can buy on xbox live.
Others have already argued that having this defeats the purpose of HC. Also, think of the implications this can have on the D3 economy. You have the same item on the same realm, but it used to be HC so it should be worth more? You pay to resurrect your character, but it loses a lot of its true value. This option would be reduced to a sentimentality.
sreda
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
How am I contradicting myself? It's fun until you die. Then it's not fun. And if it's not fun then it's a waste of time.
Risingred
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
You had fun while you are playing. Same with SC. It doesn't matter if you die because you had fun while you were alive.
phool
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
I think converting to SC on death for a fee is acceptable, resurrecting as HC is absolutely absolutely not. A high leveled char is harder to get in HC, items are more valuable... your prize HC char would be a mediocre SC char and your occy type items would go from elite to fodder. HC players wouldn't play their chars in SC even if you could do this for free, I know I would treat my char's death as equally significant as if there was no opportunity to revive. If I didn't care what mode I played in what kind of an idiot would I be to start in HC in the first place?
Risk would be hacked items on HC leaking into SC if items are retained on death and related.
I think converting to SC on death for a fee is acceptable, resurrecting as HC is absolutely absolutely not. A high leveled char is harder to get in HC, items are more valuable... your prize HC char would be a mediocre SC char and your occy type items would go from elite to fodder. HC players wouldn't play their chars in SC even if you could do this for free, I know I would treat my char's death as equally significant as if there was no opportunity to revive. If I didn't care what mode I played in what kind of an idiot would I be to start in HC in the first place?
Risk would be hacked items on HC leaking into SC if items are retained on death and related.
stephan
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
The whole fun of HC is in dying.
Getting level 99 in SC D2 is not exactly something you can put on your resumé.
The whole fun of HC is in dying.
sreda
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
My bad, I didn't realize having no characters to play after 1 stupid mistake was fun.
Risingred
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
HC is fun because you could die (permanently) at any second. Once you're dead, that's okay because you had fun.
It's like saying a game is pointless because you're going to stop playing it at some point.
You're not really getting the point here.
HC is fun because you could die (permanently) at any second. Once you're dead, that's okay because you had fun.
It's like saying a game is pointless because you're going to stop playing it at some point.
phool
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
Losing chars in HC isn't directly fun in the immediate term. It's the threat of losing chars that makes the game potentially more enjoyable and your achievements more rewarding. Quite aside from the direct way this affects your playstyle and mentality, there's a ton of sidebenefits like the culling most of Diablo's incompetent players and a less oversaturated economy.
Something similar to firmcore is attained through a survivor title track on SC chars (char specific achievement for reaching a certain level without ever having died).
I'm not wasting time on someone who can't wrap their head around so much as the old adage 'different strokes for different folks'. But I know a lot of SC players don't get this.
Losing chars in HC isn't directly fun in the immediate term. It's the threat of losing chars that makes the game potentially more enjoyable and your achievements more rewarding. Quite aside from the direct way this affects your playstyle and mentality, there's a ton of sidebenefits like the culling most of Diablo's incompetent players and a less oversaturated economy.
Also speak for yourself. A HC char in SC is as good as dead to me and I play both modes.
Something similar to firmcore is attained through a survivor title track on SC chars (char specific achievement for reaching a certain level without ever having died).
GuardianHadriel
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
i wo´nt be playing HC anyway
i wo´nt be playing HC anyway
CaptainDingo
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
As someone else said, I wouldn't see the harm in suddenly deciding you like your hardcore character enough to want to keep them permanently and then convert them to a regular character. And I don't mean after they die. If they die, they die. But if while they're alive you want to convert, you should be able to.
They can even keep stats on how long you played that character hardcore before you chickened out! (I've never played hardcore in my life so don't jump on my ***, softcorians.)
As someone else said, I wouldn't see the harm in suddenly deciding you like your hardcore character enough to want to keep them permanently and then convert them to a regular character. And I don't mean after they die. If they die, they die. But if while they're alive you want to convert, you should be able to.
They can even keep stats on how long you played that character hardcore before you chickened out! (I've never played hardcore in my life so don't jump on my ***, softcorians.)
Re: Resurrecting HC characters
If I played hardcore I'd have a problem with someone rezz'ing their dead character, especially if there is a ladder season or some other type of bragging rights. Can you imagine being beat to the top of the ladder and then finding out the person or persons that beat you all died one or more times and paid for resurrections. What a slap in the face that would be.
accelerator
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Re: Resurrecting HC characters
The paid for part would need to be a lot funkier than this but I had an idea that could be sweet:
You could resurrect the HC char but as a new toon (all levels/gear are lost) but this system allows you to keep your name. Added on to this you would get to keep a history of how far the previous incarnations of the char made it in terms of levels. Possibly through some info box as well as toggleable titles for reaching certain milestones (Lvl.90+ death, 100 previous incarnations [at Lvl.20+ to prevent exploiting], etc). I'm sure someone more creative could come up with some other ideas as well as different ways to implement the milestones (visual only auras, scars, trophies on the char). Just allows you to have some history follow you everywhere.
The paid for part would need to be a lot funkier than this but I had an idea that could be sweet:
You could resurrect the HC char but as a new toon (all levels/gear are lost) but this system allows you to keep your name. Added on to this you would get to keep a history of how far the previous incarnations of the char made it in terms of levels. Possibly through some info box as well as toggleable titles for reaching certain milestones (Lvl.90+ death, 100 previous incarnations [at Lvl.20+ to prevent exploiting], etc). I'm sure someone more creative could come up with some other ideas as well as different ways to implement the milestones (visual only auras, scars, trophies on the char). Just allows you to have some history follow you everywhere.