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Religious Beliefs

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by grimreaperofsouls, Sep 7, 2006.

  1. grimreaperofsouls

    grimreaperofsouls IncGamers Member

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    Religious Beliefs

    I'm Christian - Other.
     
  2. Sokar Rostau

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    "I am a militant Agnostic. If you don't believe what I believe I will come and burn a ****ing question mark into your front lawn."
     
  3. thegiantturtle

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    What is there to be proud of in religious beliefs?
     
  4. grimreaperofsouls

    grimreaperofsouls IncGamers Member

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    why should you not be proud in your religion?
    you have a good point though, if you declare that your proud of being in a religion your also kind of saying that other religions aren't as good as yours and they should conform to your beliefs.
     
  5. MinasMorgul

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    "Must be careful here, very dangerous ground this thread can be..."

    I am not an atheist because i refuse to discount the possibility that there may be something more. but I can't blindly believe in something...Im on the fence...


    sooo...BLAH!




    Other i guess...
     
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    Im christian - other. Lutheran to be exact.
     
  7. MadMachine

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    Jedi.

    *starts making lightsaber sounds while swinging around his Maglite*

    EDIT: Hinduist?! :laugh:
     
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    So you're agnostic.
     
  9. MinasMorgul

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    after checking the definition on Wiki, I guess I am.

    you know it might have been worth while to read the Atheist/Agnostic thread...
     
  10. PlagueBearer

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    Really, not enough options here. I mean, you left out "Jewish" for crissake!

    I might have taken a "pagan" option were it available. I'm best described as an agnostic, but I'm sure that (a) there is an intelligent design to the world and (b) there are multiple intelligences responsible.
     
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    You've just described yourself as an atheist. You don't believe in gods. Whether or not you believe there are no gods is irrelevant.

    I hate that comeback in that situation. What happened to neutrality?

    Ah. You think being part of a specific religion makes you good. That's what I was asking for.

    Does that implication extend to people who are proud of their cultural heritage?
     
  12. SaroDarksbane

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    The short answer is that I am a "Christian - Other".

    The long answer is that I think organized religions, like political parties, are total crap and serve only as a method to allow people to stop challenging their beliefs and sink into the intellectually stagnant safety of only hanging around people who agree with them.
    I aim to please! :laugh:
     
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    I agree with that, and add - as a way of keeping social order.

    @Plague Bearer: Pagan? So what night do you nail the goat to your doorway and drink its still-warm blood?
     
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    Blah!!!!

    Ten characters
     
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    Sometimes, maybe, but not all the time.

    People are just naturally intellectually lazy. Even without some mastermind scheming to control the populace, people will, out of habit, seek out a "comfort" zone, which usually means making up your mind once, and then only hanging out with people who agree from that point on.
     
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    I think you're slightly underselling religion. Religions have a couple purposes:
    1) make people feel safe
    2) make people do things that are good for themselves
    3) make people do things that are good for society
    4) make people do things that are good for the proprietors of the religion

    Different religions have different amounts of each ingredient, but most mainstream religions have some of each.

    For a self actualized individual, religion can only be a danger. If you know what's right and wrong, purposes 2 and 3 above aren't necessary. What's left? Saro's covered purpose 1 pretty well, but I think I can add that this unnatural natural tendency towards homogeneity is the most dangerous thing in society. Purpose 4 should make even die hard religious fanatics think a little bit.
     
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    Please don't confuse my use of "organized religion" with "religion".

    Religion is great. The concept of "denominations", and having an established, unquestionable church doctrine is ludicrous.
     
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    Well sure, but none of us are that observant. It's mostly an Easter and Christmas thing.
     
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    Shintoism.
     
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    Sorry I editted my post after you responded.

    By default I assume Religion to be the organized religions, and I agree completely on your view of unquestionable church doctrine in this day and age. I do see think that it served some positive purposes in hisotry.

    As for personal religious beliefs, they can be said to have the same 4 tenets as organized religions, just the proprietor of the religion is also the believer in the religion, so 2 and 4 are the same thing. In any case, I see personal religion as just a crutch used to hold up personal moral codes. If you need it, ok, but I don't know why people go through the trouble.
     

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