Recommended weapons for dual wield

SeCKSEgai

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Recommended weapons for dual wield

With all the possible runeword combinations, what do you feel is ideal and why?

I'm basically looking for ideal weaponry for a ww/zerker although recommendations in general are much appreciated.
 

Doctor Clock

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Re: Recommended weapons for dual wield

Grief/Grief. Insane damage, ITD, -% enemy defense, +damage to demons.
 

Barloc

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Re: Recommended weapons for dual wield

For PvM (Bosses) I like ebotdz/beastz, for the following reasons.

ebotdz.
1)Fast,
2)range 3 (or whatever they call it now),
3)massive leach, lets me wear whatever else I want for rings (and I do swap to fcr ring for faster tele to bosses)
4)indestructable,
5)very good damage and even better with fanatasism from beastz.

beastz
1) awesome bonus to the ebotdz from fanatasism. This makes berzerking alot of fun
due to the increase in speed (no ias jewel needed to hit last breakpoint), huge damage and AR bonus to ebotdz.
2) excellent weapon damage, plus the crushing blow is great vs bosses
3) easy weapon choice if you want to PvP ever.
4) adds merc bonus
5) oops also range 3

I keep grief in stash for pvp.

double phase greif is also a good pvm choice, not my taste.
 

zrk

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Re: Recommended weapons for dual wield

Yeah you can basically go pure bvc(just laying, gores, gui, dual leech ring on) without losing much. Or dual grief for a bit more damage.
I did the calculations for a titan barb, the damages would be:

I did some number crunching and with a decked out Titan WW build with enigma the numbers would be following(it ignores CB, OW and chance to hit though):
usage ratio right hand 1:0.7 left hand on average, approximated from durability usage

ED with grief&grief 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) + 0.5 (grief demon ed or beast str)=16.22
ED with botd 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) + 0.9 (botd ed and 30 str)=16.62
ED with grief&beast 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) + 0.5 (grief demon ed or beast str)+1.86=18.08
ED with etomb 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) + 0.77 (undead ed/3)=16.49
ED with rare weapon 1 + 7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh) =15.72
ED with rare mace 1 + 7.7(strength) + 1.68(29 mast) + 1.74(29 ww) + 2.7(24 might) + 0.4(gui socket) + 1.2(loh)+0.17(undead damage) =16.59

raw damage with ds & cs and 55 damage from charms(assuming non sup ba on grief and beast to avoid big repair bill, and 37 32020-s)

rare legendary mallet 554*1.89
grief ba 503*1.89
beast ba 231*1.77
rare ba(450 ed, 20 max damage, 2 ohms) 527*1.77
botd gpa 724*1.77
rare CS(450 ed, 20 max damage, ohm and 15/40) 939*1.77
etomb with 4015 and ohm 701*1.77

total damage per 4 frames:

1H weapons
rare lm&rare lm: (1 + 0.7)*554*1.89*16.59=29530
grief&grief: (1 + 0.7)*503*1.89*16.22=26213
rare ba&rare ba: (1+0.7)527*1.77*15.72=24928
grief&beast: 1*503*1.89*18.08 + 0.7*231*1.77*18.08=22362

2H weapons
rare CS: 1*939*1.77*15.72=26127
botd gpa: 1*724*1.77*16.62=21298
etomb: 1*701*1.77*16.49=20460
 

buckies

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Re: Recommended weapons for dual wield

Interesting results. I always assumed a max ED Beast in 1.07 Zerker base + Grief would be the win previously (for a WW barb), although your results suggest dual grief is the win.
 

Kronic

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Re: Recommended weapons for dual wield

raw damage not everything! botd/death great combo!!
 

zrk

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Re: Recommended weapons for dual wield

Interesting results. I always assumed a max ED Beast in 1.07 Zerker base + Grief would be the win previously (for a WW barb), although your results suggest dual grief is the win.
I didnt try that exotic stuff though, dunno about that lol. Maybe one of those zod bugged beasts?



 

RealmOftheWolf

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Re: Recommended weapons for dual wield

In PvP Grief seems the better choice since the bonuses with fanaticism isnt exacty that big or at least big enough to compare with dual grief.
 

zrk

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Re: Recommended weapons for dual wield

whirls are shorter so main hand damage is more important in pvp.. also AR important due to high lvl and def of opponents
 
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