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Really need help with my Bowazon

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  1. bassen

    bassen IncGamers Member

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    Really need help with my Bowazon

    Hi

    As a few of you know, I play a Bowazon. However her damage is so low that it takes her several secs for each enemy...Were did I go wrong and how can I make her better?


    Stats:
    STR - 90
    Dex - 185
    VIT - 155
    ENE - 15

    Skills:

    Cold Arrow 20
    Ice Arrow 1 (pre)
    Frozen Arrow 20

    Magic Arrow - 1 (pre)
    Multi - 1 (pre)
    Guided Arrow - 1 (pre)
    Strafe - 20

    1 Inner sight
    1 Slow Missiles
    1 Decoy
    1 Dodge
    1 Avoid
    1 Evade
    1 Critical
    1 Penetrate
    1 Piecre
    7 Valk
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    Gear:

    M'avina's Embrace
    M'avina's Tenet
    M'avina's Caster
    M'avina's Icy Cluth
    2 Raven Frost
    Natalyas Soul
    Atma's Scarab
    Valkyrie Wing
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    Act 2 Merc with Obedience (might Merc)

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    She does 1600 with Strafe

    and 1600 + 1600 CD with FA....
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    Thats a very low damage, isnt it?

    I rembember my Fury Druid, he did 5k damage.... and my Bonemancer 3,3 k Magic Damage and sorceress 4k damage...

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    I have all low-mid runes except Lem...


    Edit: I know Windforce would be good but I dont have any and I'm still NTTP so thres no way I can get one
     
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  2. winmar

    winmar IncGamers Member

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    Re: Really need help eith my Bowazon

    I don't think that's low damage considering you shoot 10 arrows at once and each deal 1600dmg. The problem might be your AR since you only have 1 point in Penetration! In that case a Blessed Aim merc might actually help you deal more damage then a merc with Might.
     
  3. Thyiad

    Thyiad Moderator Single Player, D2 Assassin, Barbarian

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    Anyone want to look up the breakpoints?

    That's where my tips end, I fail with Amazons. And Druids. And Pallys. And my teleporting gets me into trouble. Erm. Why do I play this again? :laugh:
     
  4. slayer37

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    IMO, Mav's set is really geared towards the cold tree and so you should focus on getting as much +skills, +cold damage and -cold resist as you can. If you equip Mav's True Sight, you gain +4 to all skills (1 from the Diadem and 3 for completing the set). Atma's ammy should be replaced by Maras if you have it. SoJ for the other ring instead of dual Ravens. Also, FA/strafe really shine with high pierce. No razortail and slvl3 Pierce (1 hard point and +2 PnM from Embrace) is really bad.
     
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    stephan IncGamers Member

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    You've spend a lot more in vita than most physical bowazons would, but 1600 damage per arrow should still be more than enough.

    Probably your CtH is a little low (or you are running Hell at p8)
     
  6. bassen

    bassen IncGamers Member

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    I have reached the BP with 2,77 Arrows/sec

    I have must finnished NM ^^ my clvl is 74, I plan to get her up to clvl 80 before Hell.


    Ok, I try to change her as good as I can ^^

    how about eq

    Lycanders Aim (4 to bow skills)
    Harlequins Crest (life/mana 2 skills)
    Razortail
    other gear so I get high IAS
     
  7. maxicek

    maxicek Moderator Single Player

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    If you want to complete the set, I can trade you a [1.11b SC RRM RWM] Mav's true sight for some PGs. Make a thread in the SPTF and we can discuss it there.

    Edit:
    Sorry, I'm wrong, I can't trade it to you as you are NTPP. But I can give it to you if you post your e-mail address :smiley:
     
  8. bassen

    bassen IncGamers Member

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    I sent you a pm too ^^ sebben87(at)hotmail(dot)com

    thanks a lot ^^ =)

    with truesight the coldskill dm,g will raise by 20% to ^^
     
  9. NagisaFurukawa

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    The Diadem is pretty. Enough said.

    M'avina's isn't very good for physical damage. The set is definitely more geared towards Frost Maidens. It's way more than enough to finish the game though.

    I see one potential issue: IAS. M'avina's helm will help you out a lot, but Grand Matron Bows are still the slowest of the slow. You're at 70 IAS. The next breakpoint is at 89 IAS (9 frame FA). Throwing a Shael into the bow would probably be the best. Also, I don't see a point to Atma's. Highlord's or Cat's Eye would suit you a lot better. Don't Shael your bow if you decide to use one of those two, as they will give you enough IAS by themselves.
     
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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    I would suggest a Nef in the bow. Knockback on a strafer is awesome. I put IAS jewels in the helm and armor and wore Highlords to reach the non-existant 2 frame strafe. Now that all that speed has been proven useless, you can get by with less.

    Also, for all the slots it takes up, the set doesn't provide enough in the resistance department. For that reason, Maras is probably a good choice for ammy. I tried Atmas, but didn't like it. The bow doesn't do the best physical damage; the magic damage seems to do more. Also, its not like you need Atmas to break PIs since you have FA. So I would go for skills and resists in the ammy slot.
     
  11. bassen

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    my bow was shaeled long time ago =p when I decided to go bowazon.

    But FA´s, dont they always hit with cold damge? its the physical damage that migh miss, right? I will prob socket the truesight with Um or Fervor..havent decided yet ^^

    But for now

    Caster socket with Shael (tot 60%)
    Armor socket with Fervor (15%)
    then from Truesight (30%)

    = 105% =)
     
  12. NagisaFurukawa

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    90 IAS is enough. Any more than that (unless you can hit 150) is a total waste.

    Freezing Arrow's cold damage always hits, but if you want the arrow to pierce, the physical part has to hit as well. That's my understanding, at least.

    More importantly, fix the amulet. Atma's isn't going to help.
     
  13. maxicek

    maxicek Moderator Single Player

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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    Don't put an Um in it - just make sure you lightning resistance in maxxed - an Ort is a good choice and much cheaper.

    You should have mail BTW :smiley:



     
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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    yeah I saw that =) I answered it too ^^ (I not at home right now but I´ll post readputs when I gte home)


    thank you


     
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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    I equipped the last Mavina (thanks Maxicek) and the CD raised from 1600 to 2,2k =) and she shoots kinda fast to now and many of the arrows pierce. I changed to a BA-merc.
     
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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    What about your monster spawns? :p
     
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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    If your attackrating is low, use guided or frozen arrow, no need for AR there.
     
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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    You should also condsider a few more points if Pierce, if you can spare them. The skill really makes Freezing Arrow shine, since if you have a tightly punched group of monsters, the cold damage can hit multiple targets several times.

    When the arrow hits a monster, it creates a blast of cold damage that hurts all mosnters in a radius. If the arrow pierces and hits another target behind the first one, you'll get a second cold burst, effectively doubling the damage you do.
     
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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    then pierce/penetrate/valk are my last points, I'll try to divide them, however, with +skills, my valk is lvl 18 now... shall i place skills until i have placed 17 hars kills or is it 17 softskills?


     
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    Re: Really need help with my Bowazon

    It's 17 soft skills :) So give the Valk a rest and divide yours skills into pierce and penetrate. If I'm not totally mistaken, lv 7 Pierce + Razortail gives you 100% pierce, and after that you can put the rest in Penetrate :)
     

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