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Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by Tairn, Jun 27, 2010.

  1. Tairn

    Tairn IncGamers Member

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    Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    Crystal Sword
    +1 Combat Skills (Barb)
    10% IAS
    Fools mod
    +37 to attack rating
    Prevent monster heal
    +11 to strength

    Not sure if this would be worth an upgrade for a frenzy barb... input is appreciated.
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    No its not eth or it def would have been worth a double up if had nice ed mods also.


     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    No, it's not worth upping, not even if it's just once.

    Are you online or single player? Either way, don't bother.

    Suggestions:

    1. Find a 5 socket Zweihander or Dimensional Blade and make this instead:

    'Honor'
    5 Socket Melee Weapons
    Amn + El + Ith + Tir + Sol
    +160% Enhanced Damage
    +9 To Minimum Damage
    +9 To Maximum Damage
    25% Deadly Strike
    +250 To Attack Rating
    +1 to All Skills
    7% Life Stolen Per Hit
    Replenish Life +10
    +10 To Strength
    +1 To Light Radius
    +2 To Mana After Each Kill

    2. Trade for/find a unique Battle Sword (Headstriker), or Espandon (Crainte Vomir).
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    I'm pretty sure the recipes for upping items clearly states *unique*, so you can't upgrade magic/rares/sets.
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    you can upgrade rares too..



     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    Currently using Azurewrath/Lightsabre (can't afford a Grief yet). I do have an Oath in an eth Balrog, but trying to keep my strength down for my current build. Thanks for the inputs!


     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    ^ Then why would you consider upping that Crystal Sword? For the Fool's and better WSM? :x
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    Seems like the fools mod gave a huge increase to my AR, but w/o the CS being eth I can see why it's not really worth it.
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    If you need Ar, use angelics.
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    Strongly disagree. Besides fools mod, all the mods on this weapon are low rolls and it doesn't have any enhanced damage. At all.


     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    To be worth upping, a crystal sword needs the potential to get 65 ias, which means it needs to have atleast 30 ias AND 2 sockets. This is because rare phase blades can only be useful on fury werewolves, where they need 65 ias to reach a 4 frame attack. If they can't get 65 ias, they're completely useless. Even a 450 ed 20 ias 2 socket eth phase blade doesn't come close to being as good as a simple grief pb. Sad but true.
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    But you forget grief needs a Lo but upping the rare only needs pul iirc.


     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    Up in, socket it then squeeze as many cham's into it as possible for max freeze. All the way, you got the uber! :thumbsup:
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    actually, such rares are possibly rarer than a lo nowadays..



     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    first off: i´m a huge rare enthusiast

    for the dmg itself u might be right, but for the reason of style alone eth phaseblades with (30 ias) 300 ed and fools rock the world (that has 200 avg dmg + 1500 ar <-> grief has no itd as the -25% and itd exclude each other and the eth wins). last ladder i sold several 390+ ed weapons (non eth) for several high runes, and there is always mld for which rares should be taken into account.

    however those mentioned rares need to be really good


     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    another point to add is that rare eth pbs are not only useful on fury wolves. fast speed, tight damage range and vengeance-convertible (grief=fail) means that it's awesome on avengers especially the min damage kind. easy 8frames attack =)
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    Eth BOTD BA would reach 9 frames with another 26% IAS and have superior damage and stats.
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    eth pb's main focus is the minimum damage. a few min dmg jewels here and there and you're sorted. at least 3k-3k vengeance =)



     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    The not Eth and not enough sockets kills it.
    Rares can have 2.
    Phase blades can/could? be a rare upgrade from dimension blade rare eth and keep the eth with it's inherent phase blade no durability
     
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    Re: Rare weapon -- worth upping twice?

    But finding a godly crystal or dimensions is very rare. Plus if it was found it would be very expensive b/c it gots other use too if fools moded.


     

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