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Rabies question

Discussion in 'Druid' started by Ferrous, Feb 27, 2004.

  1. Ferrous

    Ferrous IncGamers Member

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    Rabies question

    Lately I've been compiling a data table that compares all different kinds of attacks...at any rate, I noticed something -

    Rabies V. Fireclaws
    Rabies deals about 3500 damage in roughly 10 seconds with max synergies at level 20
    Fireclaws deals about 4500 with max synergies at level 20.
    Rabies would need point allocation of 40 skill points.
    Fire claws would need point allocation of 100 skill points.

    Rabies seems thus much more efficient....Basically, my question is for the experienced druid players, how good is it realy? How significant is that poisoned time? And - does the poison actually spread to other monsters as you use it?
     
  2. proudfoot

    proudfoot IncGamers Member

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    Yes, it spreads to other monsters when they get infected. Very effective at crowd control :)

    Fire Claws does that much damage every hit, though, so that is a good thing to take into consideration.
     
  3. PressAltAndF4

    PressAltAndF4 IncGamers Member

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    Ever hear of carrion wind? Guessing you havent since your putting points in creeper. The unique ring "carrion wind" acts like marrowwalk and gives the druid a lvl 21 synergy bonus AS LONG AS YOU DONT PUT POINTS IN IT. Not only does this save you 20 skill points but gives you an extra level of synergy. Some druids still put points in as to keep a ring slot open.
     
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    mepersoner IncGamers Member

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    Yeah we all know that. Some people just prefer not to abuse the bug.
     
  5. proudfoot

    proudfoot IncGamers Member

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    WTH not abug nub go play wit h garbda.!! !1


    Carrion Wind is BM, in my humble, ignorable opinion.
     
  6. mepersoner

    mepersoner IncGamers Member

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    If I make another druid, I will probably abuse the hell out of that bug.
     
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    simmk81 IncGamers Member

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    rabies are like the one of the (if not the) best ww class imo. i remember that coldarmy had a flaming rabies guide out there. ferrous, you might find that useful- fireclaws + rabies :)
     
  8. electricblue

    electricblue IncGamers Member

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    rabies is a skill of mass destruction
    rabies is very effectie when used with fury, or fire claws.

    for the possible builds and information, you can consult my hybrid wolf guide.
     
  9. frend? or foe!

    frend? or foe! IncGamers Member

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    hi all is rabies realy that good? heres what i found
    lets just say for instance i got 20 in rabies and 21 in poison creeper(sinergy)
    my poison dmg would be around:
    4,417 - 4,764 over 11.6 sec = 380-410 p dmg per sec

    with +10 skill points:
    12,466 - 12,932 over 15.6 sec = 799-828 per sec

    now stick on a bramble and trangs gloves (mines 36%) = 61% to total poison dmg:
    20,070 - 20,820 over 15.6 sec = 1286-1334 per sec

    to sum up:
    A. the duration on rabies would mean monsters/players would be poisoned for
    a long time = bad
    B. the damage per second is piddly compared to hells minions/pvp'ers hp=bad

    C. anyone want a nice cup of tea, while im waiting for these monsters to die!= bad joke

    ps if iam wrong please correct me i'm not trying to flame anyone i have'nt even played a rabid wolf its just how i see the skill from my point of view
    anyways wouldnt a necro be the lord of all things toxic?

    jimi


    how i see rabies from
     
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    mepersoner IncGamers Member

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    Try a higher level rabies. +10 skills is not even close to enough for a rabies build.
     
  11. electricblue

    electricblue IncGamers Member

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    try it above lvl 35 as mepersoner said.
    and have some - %enemy poison resistance.
     
  12. Salo

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    I have never seen the need for -% poison resistance if you stack a few shapeshifting gc's and +skills on the guy. This goes for any build from 108-1.10. -% resist, while it works, often takes the place of other, much more useful socket spots.

    -% fire resists does more imho as you are trying to go for deathrate and not simply happy seeing them die.

    i always mess up the name of my +5 rabies sword, but using that, throw a Dol rune in it, it will send the monster poisoning the rest of the board. Delirium works well too, but is much more expensive to build.
     
  13. Æ’enris

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    It's plague bearer.
    -resist is mainly pvp, but it will really help pvm too.
    Say someone manages 95 poison resist, and your -resist takes them down to 90 resist, thats a 100% damage increase.
     
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    -% enemy resistance is very useful in both PvP and PvM.
    death's web greatly enhances the damage.
    I am talking about solo killing in p8 hell games
     
  15. frend? or foe!

    frend? or foe! IncGamers Member

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    ok
    jalals +4
    maras+2
    bul k +1
    bul k +1
    arach +1
    sigons shield +1
    plague barer +5
    skillies +10

    total +25 (did'nt add anni but nevermind)

    k max rabies and sinergy +8 to all//+25 to rabies:
    76,719 - 78,072 over 21.6 sec = 3,551-3,614 per sec = a lot more respectable but what a trade off no pdr,piddley resists,laughable physical dmg
    how u gonna kill poison resists ask grandma to do it?

    worked out an zon build 20 plage jav& 20 poison jav +10 skills and bramble
    36% + trangs gloves =35,750 - 36,091 over 14.6 secs= 2,448 - 2,471,
    ok not as much p dmg! but her equip is far supperior for keeping her alive,
    and remember she has 15 less + skills! i'm not a zon fan just using a zon to
    compare with also i think her poison timer is to long also!
     
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    VoodooCamel IncGamers Member

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    Small question, does other poison stack with Rabies?
     
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    frend? or foe! IncGamers Member

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    hi just compared a necro with same + skills ie +25skills bramble 36% + trangs gloves wont bother u with the math but that bastard will do about
    10,609 - 10,882 p dmg per sec thats without lr! ouch!!! :rant:
     
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    frend? or foe! IncGamers Member

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    voodoo; dont see why p charms wouldnt stack but i think the durations on the charms mess with the durations on the skill :scratch: correct me if i an wrong
    anyways sticking +ss skillies in there place would probably give u more poison dmg in the long run
     
  19. VoodooCamel

    VoodooCamel IncGamers Member

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    Rabies can kill... :bow:
    If rabies did that much, people would die in like 3-4 seconds then complain blah blah blah, suddenly you see more people playing rabies builds...
     
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    2JZ-GTTE IncGamers Member

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    I can't wait to finish a rabies/fury druid to see just how powerful it really is.

    Is plague bearer too slow for PvP?
     

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