Latest Diablo 3 News
DiabloWiki Updates
Support the site! Become a Diablo: IncGamers PAL - Remove ads and more!

Quick Question for Zealots ^^

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by .Achilles, Mar 24, 2004.

  1. .Achilles

    .Achilles IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2003
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Quick Question for Zealots ^^

    Hey,
    A nostaligic 1.09 back from retirement pvp'er here ^^.

    Im setting up my pvp enterage again which consists of Pally and druid pvp characters.

    Anyway, I have a question about zealot weapon.

    I have 2 BotD eth berserker axes. (Courtesy of old hookups ^^)

    Anyway im am undecided on which would be better.

    The first has 497% ED and tops of at a max damage of around 526. However it only has 12% LifeLeech.

    The second has 481% ED and tops of at a max damage of around 511. However it on the other hand, has 15% lifeLeech.

    What is more valuable to a zealot in this case? 16% extra ED. Or 3% extra life leech.

    (PS also is their anything particular that has changed since 1.09 in regards to Life Leech/Deadly strike/Crushing blow that i should know of?)

    Thankee.
    Time to bring Fury werewolves and zealots back to the top of pvp foodchain!
    Necros.... Bah
     
  2. Ill-Anubis

    Ill-Anubis IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    Life leech is about as useless as it gets in PvP now, so definitely go for the higher ED BotD.
     
  3. .Achilles

    .Achilles IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2003
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    um... care to elaborate on that?
     
  4. Ill-Anubis

    Ill-Anubis IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    I'm pretty sure life leech has been completely eliminated from PvP, though it could just have been nerfed beyond use. Someone else care to help me out with numbers?
     
  5. .Achilles

    .Achilles IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2003
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Oh my god. Zealot is not looking so appeling now. I dont know how i can possibly hope to last in matchups vs ranged now. PvP kept you alive cause one hit leeched all your life back from their puny bodies.

    Plus pvp was the single most dyamic factor in pre 1.10 dueling. It was great fun in zealot/druid/javazon/assasin duels to go head to head with a good opponent and watch your lifes drop , then you get a few hits and you survive some life back, and then you drop, .... on and on.

    If this is true they removed or overnerfed leech.... I dunno WTF blizz was thinking.
     
  6. HandofElysium

    HandofElysium IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2003
    Messages:
    1,232
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    255
    leech was never nerfed more like corrected. 1.09 leech never took pvp penalty of the damage you inflicted so when you leeched a player it was just like leeching a monster. Thats why zealots favor lifetap in there items because the leech there ignores the pvp penalty. ie Exile, dracs
     
  7. PuSs Says Go Time

    PuSs Says Go Time IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jan 26, 2004
    Messages:
    34
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    100% true. only way to leech is with lifetap
    dmg>life leech
     
  8. CoRRuPt-OnE

    CoRRuPt-OnE IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    1,026
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    120
    basically what happened is that in .09 what was 36% life leech in pvp now became around 6% in .10 pvp so ll is very useless now, definately go for the bigger ed instead of 3% more ll
     
  9. CoRRuPt-OnE

    CoRRuPt-OnE IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    1,026
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    120
    yea draculs grasp or whatever its called helps alot in pvp now. you can be inches from death, cast it, and gain everything u lost back.
     
  10. .Achilles

    .Achilles IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2003
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    GODDAMIT.

    This is depressing. I was hoping to have fun kicking some ranged *** with my modified zealot.

    jesus, no leech... this is bad, this is very very bad.
     
  11. HandofElysium

    HandofElysium IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2003
    Messages:
    1,232
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    255
    Charge is beefed up so much you can pretty much one hit kill range players with it
     
  12. CoRRuPt-OnE

    CoRRuPt-OnE IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    1,026
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    120
    yea but it's so buggy now that it is becoming a great annoyance, getting charge stuck, when holding shift and trying to charge it sometimes wont work at all, and charge not even hitting at all sometimes.
     
  13. .Achilles

    .Achilles IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2003
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    26
    Hey just a quick question. In 1.10 pvp, it wasnt neccessary to max zeal. Just a few points in it sufficed. Do i need to max zeal now?
     
  14. CoRRuPt-OnE

    CoRRuPt-OnE IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Nov 17, 2003
    Messages:
    1,026
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    120
    u mean .09 zeal?

    but neways in .10 5 points into zeal would suffice, however if you wanted the xtra + dmg to your wep u might want to spend some xtra points here, but thats enitrely up to u
     
  15. memememe173

    memememe173 IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2003
    Messages:
    9,447
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    No more eth bug, defene is much more important. And Zeal adds damage now too, it really should be maxed
     
  16. Ill-Anubis

    Ill-Anubis IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2003
    Messages:
    10
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    1
    In making my Frost Zealot, I originally was going to try maxing both Sacrifice and Salvation for damage, but found that I needed AR. However, this may not be the case for a Zealot using Fanaticism.


    OT: Would anyone mind checking out my Smiter thread, I'm looking for some information, and any help would be greatly appreciated.
     
  17. xpumafangx

    xpumafangx IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2003
    Messages:
    3,124
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    346
    Achilles I 100% support bringing the fury werewolfs and zealots back to the top of the food chain. Not being able to leech is just a minor set back. Yes the gloves are the way to go with this. But there is other things to look at. Like when dueling a necro you do not need a sheild. Why block when there is nothing to block. Also I belive that teleport is very helpful when you have been bonecaged. I do not want to be stuck in a cage with them shooting bonespirts or spears at me.

    Not 100%, 110%
     
  18. WvX_leader

    WvX_leader Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 7, 2004
    Messages:
    237
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    lol... necros are just funny... lets just leave it at that
     
  19. Rascargil

    Rascargil IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2003
    Messages:
    64
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    11
    Zeal should be maxed if you're going to go zealot. The ar is needed against other meleers especially other barbs/pallies.
     
  20. Andrew

    Andrew IncGamers Member

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2003
    Messages:
    249
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    57
    I remember someone suggesting maxing blessed aim for the passive AR bonus instead of maxing zeal... cuz AR really is that important now.
     

Share This Page