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Quick Q, Stormshield or Moser's or [Suggest one]

Discussion in 'Sorceress' started by psychotik__, Mar 18, 2004.

  1. psychotik__

    psychotik__ IncGamers Member

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    Quick Q, Stormshield or Moser's or [Suggest one]

    Just for quick reference:

    Stormshield
    Defense: (136-504) - (151-519) (varies)(Base Defense: 133-148)
    Required Level: 73
    Required Strength: 156
    Chance to Block: Pal: 77%, Ama/Asn/Bar: 72%, Dru/Nec/Sor: 67%
    Paladin Smite Damage: 12 To 34
    + (3.75 Per Character Level) 3-371 Defense (Based On Character Level)
    +25% Increased Chance Of Blocking
    35% Faster Block Rate
    Damage Reduced By 35%
    Cold Resist +60%
    Lightning Resist +25%
    +30 To Strength
    Attacker Takes Lightning Damage of 10
    Indestructible
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.09 or later)

    Gerke's Sanctuary
    Defense: 193.2-268.6 (varies)(Base Defense: 68-78)
    Required Level: 44
    Required Strength: 133
    Chance to Block: Pal: 75%, Ama/Asn/Bar: 75%, Dru/Nec/Sor: 74%
    Durability: 172
    Paladin Smite Damage: 10 To 17
    +180-240% Enhanced Defense
    +30% Increased Chance of Blocking
    All Resistances +20-30(varies)
    Replenish Life +15
    Damage Reduced By 11-16(varies)
    Magic Damage Reduced By 14-18(varies)

    Now, my sorc is a meteorb sorc with about 500%MF, basically she just needs to be strong enough for meph, pindle, and pit runs in hell difficulty. now, i like the gerke's cause of the resists and the low stat points neccesary to use the shield and get max block. so basically, is it worth using stormshield and investing all the stat points for the 35% damage reduction?

    if you have another shield in mind plz do tell, i also have a viscrueutaztratzuant (sp? :)

    Thanks!
     
  2. Zarhrezz

    Zarhrezz IncGamers Member

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    Visc is good for high and fast block and +1 skills, Sanctuary owns in the resists with high and fast block, Stormshield offers 35% PDR (depends on your build and playstyle if that's needed at all) for the non-ES sorcs, Moser's nice too, Rhyme is fast and high block and some other useful stats like some mf, some mana regen and CBF. Just pick the one best fitting your build and playstyle. Heck, Medusa's Gaze could be a fun choice.
     
  3. plasteredkittylizard

    plasteredkittylizard IncGamers Member

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    Personally, I'm a fan of Mosers - less of a str req, 2 p diamonds gets 63% resist all, quick blocking, and it has a very nice dex to max blocking ratio. Plus, theyre cheap. My 2 cents.

    Edit: You asked about SS vs Mosers, but posted stats for Gerke's, hehe.
     
  4. billyphil

    billyphil IncGamers Member

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    I use Moser's and was wondering if I upped it, what are the new str req, def, and block % on it? Will it still keep the 2 diamonds in it? I have 84 str right now at lvl 60 and am thinking about getting 103 str for a wealth archon plate but dont know if it is worth it for 20 str. Suggestions? (tals armor does req 84 str right?) I dont think I want to waste a lem and ko rune on anything less than an archon plate so would 4 topaz armor be a better choice? the armor is temporary anyway hopefully. Also, is my lem and ko for a shako a bad deal on my part?
     
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    plasteredkittylizard IncGamers Member

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    I read in another post that upping a mosers isn't really worth it, as you only get 7% more block out of the deal. If I was going to up a shield and didn't need the huge resist off Mosers, I'd up a Visceraunt, personally. Great bonuses there. Also, lem + ko for Shako isn't terrible, but I'd shop around - on USEast Ladder they tend to float at about an UM. Go 4 topaz until you get a Tals, definetly.
     
  6. AzulAzul

    AzulAzul IncGamers Member

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    well, i think that if u need resists u should try moosers of course, but if u choose stormshield, u have to max block, only that way, imo , u will take advantage from that ubber shield.

    my mf sorc uses ali baba + moosers, cause i need the resists, and use ali baba + rhyme in swap weapons.

    greetings
     
  7. Harby

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    Europe SCL Shako = Ist or worst case mal + um. So lem + ko for shako is a great deal from my point of view..
     
  8. cowtestickles

    cowtestickles IncGamers Member

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    wut about whistamas???? low stre req has best chance to block out of any shield for a sorc and has fast block rate my 2 cent(who the **** is 50cent)
     
  9. necro1975

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    I would use Moser's with 2 fire or lightning facets.
     
  10. Harby

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    In case some1 wants to facet' a shield head hunters sounds like a much better idea to me.. :) 3 socks one of course..
     
  11. sorcyone

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    Here are my generic scores for sorceress shields. Scoring system is in sc (small charms) ie how many sc would be needed to achieve the same stats.

    16 Viscerant heater
    15 Moser's round
    15 Moser's Luna
    13 Artisans Tower Shield of Deflecting (from shop)
    13 Viscerant defender
    11 Whitstan's
    10 Rhyme heater
    6 Sigon

    Note Artisans Tower Shield of Deflecting is well worth shopping for. 64% block and 3 free sockets is a very flexible item usable at level 25, and an item you ca
    n acquire at low levels without MF.

    Working notes :

    2 socket heater 77 Str block 42% light
    2 socket grim shield 68 Str block 40% light
    2 socket tower shield 75 Str block 44% heavy

    Sorc Lev 80
    block 60% need dex 215 diff 24 Life
    block 62% need dex 209 diff 12 Life
    block 64% need dex 203

    base : L80 Str 77 Dex 180
    RA = resist all
    FBR = faster block rate

    Rhyme heater
    L 43
    77 St 0
    def 102 1
    60% block 215 -5
    40% FBR 4
    25% RA 8
    no socket -6
    no freeze 4
    50% gold
    25% MF 4
    10

    Viscerant defender30
    L28
    37 Str 2
    def 112 1
    +1 sorc 10
    60% block 215 -4
    30% faster block 4
    13

    Viscerant heater42
    L49
    def 230 2
    +1 sorc 10
    77 Str 0
    72% block 182 0
    30% faster block 4
    16

    Sigon
    L6
    +1 9
    70 Str 1
    64% block 203 -3
    heavy -1
    6

    Moser's round25
    L31
    53 St 2
    def 167 1
    30% faster block 4
    25% RA 8
    extra socket 6
    57% (+25)block 226 -6
    15

    Moser's Luna40
    L52
    100 St -3
    def 345 3
    30% faster block 4
    25% RA 8
    extra socket 6
    65% (+25)block 200 -3 ??
    15

    Artisans Tower of Deflecting (3 pd)
    L22
    70 Str 1
    64% block 203 -3
    30% faster block 4
    57% RA 18
    heavy -1
    no socket -6
    13

    Whitstan's Guard
    L 29
    def 154 1
    53 St 2
    87% block 153 4
    40% FBR 4
    half freeze
    11
     
  12. Sessily

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    If you have the runes (and are on ladder/SP) to upgrade, you might as well do it in a Visceratuant. Stick a PDiamond in it and you have a very nice chance to block (or rather, low dexterity investment) and very low strength requirement (84) + some resists.
     
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    I my self use ss. Since it give crazy deffense and high block with 35%pdr and lr cr. The only down side is its require 133 str even with -15% *** or rune inside. But I think take some point from val to str is worth the spend on this one :)
     
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    I think Umed Whistans should rank quite a bit higher on your scale. I think you are underestimating the value of 50 saved stat points. Even if you twink, thats still 50 DEX you don't have to worry about
     
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    Lidless wall with a P. Diamond.
     
  16. Ulric

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    Personally I think Moser is the way to go. I don't believe in putting any points into Dex and I would not put more points into strength than what I need for Tal Armor. If you get surrounded and pounded by monsters, you did something wrong. If you're not blocking attacks, then you don't need the defense nor the blocking. With Moser, you only need 7 more resist to negate Hell resist penalty and if you have an occy, you have positive resist already. Can't beat that.
     
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    If you UmUm moser's you get 69 resist all which is enough to be -1 with the 3 resist quest completed. But upgrading it is a mistake for just about all builds.
     
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    Max block isn't for melee as much as it is for ranged and some spell attacks. It is invaluable if done right.
     
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    I understand that, but most range attacks are weaker than melee attacks. Also ranged spell attacks can be cut down by resist from Moser. Another point is that your Merc should be in front of you taking most of the range attacks. I personally like to use Duriel's Shell (for cannot be frozen and extra life and resist) for my Merc. You also have to remember that if you put enough points into Mana ( I like to have 1000+) energy shield will absorb most of the ranged attacks. I just believe that Sorcs cannot go into melee range, and if you stay out of melee range, you do not need a blocking shield.

    Ulric
     

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