Quick Homoculous socket question

[Planet_Smasher]

lol your willing to waste time and trade value for 3% extra resists, that is just plain foolish. Here is why:

1) Ums appear in at least 1/2 dozen runewords (which incidently is their best purpose)
2) Um's can not be used till level 47, P diamonds level 18
3) a 3% difference is only a saves you 30 hitpoints for every 1000 hp hit (and all but one or two don't even approch a 1000 point hit with elemental).
4) The value of um is aproxamitely (according to the value reports on this sites trade formus) 50+ p diamonds.
5) P diamonds only have this one use only. They can't be used for crafting, and the mods they add when put in helm/body armor and weapons are seldom if ever employed.

You say it's good planing? In what way?

Well said :worship:

 

[Kyo]

lol your willing to waste time and trade value for 3% extra resists, that is just plain foolish. Here is why:

1) Ums appear in at least 1/2 dozen runewords (which incidently is their best purpose)

True but i wouldn't say it a must/best. The whole point of the game is what you want to do and not necessary just follow the trend of the BEST course of action

2) "Um's can not be used till level 47, P diamonds level 18" - Hey the guy's a perfectonist - no crime in that. Your main playing chars not going to stay below clvl 47 forever unless your content with just being low level or giving up. I know my unrealistic goal is to get all my main chars near clvl 99 or as high as possible.

3) "a 3% difference is only a saves you 30 hitpoints for every 1000 hp hit (and all but one or two don't even approch a 1000 point hit with elemental)".
Who knows in HC every single HP counts so maybe that extra 30HP could be a life saver.

5) P diamonds only have this one use only. They can't be used for crafting, and the mods they add when put in helm/body armor and weapons are seldom if ever employed.

erm note quite true - The whole point of people trading items for gems is to allow high level rerolls for charms/amulet etc. you will find normally "rich" playerr amass a plentiful supply of p gems just for this purpose alone so i would disagree saying that p diamonds only have this one use as the reoll recipe works will all gems including p dia's.

 

[Lunatic]

lol your willing to waste time and trade value for 3% extra resists, that is just plain foolish. Here is why:

1) Ums appear in at least 1/2 dozen runewords (which incidently is their best purpose)
2) Um's can not be used till level 47, P diamonds level 18
3) a 3% difference is only a saves you 30 hitpoints for every 1000 hp hit (and all but one or two don't even approch a 1000 point hit with elemental).
4) The value of um is aproxamitely (according to the value reports on this sites trade formus) 50+ p diamonds.
5) P diamonds only have this one use only. They can't be used for crafting, and the mods they add when put in helm/body armor and weapons are seldom if ever employed.

You say it's good planing? In what way?

Did you actually read my post? Guess not.

1) There's more then 1 Um rune on the realms. If I want to make a runeword with Um in it , I either am lucky and found 1 myself , or I trade for one. Not a biggy.

2) All my chars are above lvl 47. Also , most items that are worth to Um are around the same level , or higher. So even if your Pdiamond has a lvl req of 18 , Humonculus has one of 42. Again , not a fuss for me.

3) Again you didn't read my post. I like to stack alittle resist so that convic / LR don't lower my resist that bad. That extra 3% helps alittle there. Granted not all that much , but every little bit helps.

4) I don't care at all about trade values. Um runes on NL aren't all that expensive to begin with. And there's something called mf'ing , which allows you to trade for stuff.

5) Pdiamonds (just like any other type) can be used for rerolling charms / jewels. Or any other magic item for that matter. Their use isn't limited to just shields.

 

[darnocpdx]

But did you two read the orginal post. Obviously he doesn't have alot of stuff with a statements such as:

Actually found a decent item for once.

So you all get here and recomend he gets an UM for it? He probably doesn't have anything to get an UM for (other than the Homu.)

As for the cost on SC and Non ladder sure they're cheaper, but then again I don't understand why anything in SC is worth more than one chip, since nothing is ever lost, except from deleteing accounts. It's a completely false economy in SC.

Actually on ladder they should be cheaper since runes can be upgraded.

Now if we were on a pally forum talking bout what to put in a 4 socket rare shield it'd be a 12 point difference then, sure. But I only play HC too, and Ums in single socket shields make no noticable differance from a P diamond.

I'll try to refrain on the cars you all drive...

 

[Lunatic]

But did you two read the orginal post. Obviously he doesn't have alot of stuff with a statements such as:

Actually found a decent item for once.

So you all get here and recomend he gets an UM for it? He probably doesn't have anything to get an UM for (other than the Homu.)

As for the cost on SC and Non ladder sure they're cheaper, but then again I don't understand why anything in SC is worth more than one chip, since nothing is ever lost, except from deleteing accounts. It's a completely false economy in SC.

Actually on ladder they should be cheaper since runes can be upgraded.

Now if we were on a pally forum talking bout what to put in a 4 socket rare shield it'd be a 12 point difference then, sure. But I only play HC too, and Ums in single socket shields make no noticable differance from a P diamond.

I'll try to refrain on the cars you all drive...

I didn't comment on the creator of this thread at all. I was quoting someone else.

I do agree that if you're not wealthy , a pdiamond is a really good alternative. I used those quite alot aswell. But the fact is , if you have the resources , why not use it.

 

[darnocpdx]

Cuase you can use it for something more benifical for you.

1) runewords
2) trading for gear
3) trading for p gems for rerolling those charms/ammys. (and you both argued that one P gem will slow you down in doing this? when that Um can get you many more P gems, or significantly slow you down on this if you trade for it with P gems? Faulty logic boys.)

I don't care how rich you are, those three things right there are a better use of an UM than an extra 3% resist all in a one slot shield.

The only reason to add an UM in a one socket shield is to stroke your ego and as a way to show off your on-line riches, which is is fine if that is what gets you excited. But for most players saying put an Um in it is unrealistic.

 

[Lunatic]

Cuase you can use it for something more benifical for you.

1) runewords
2) trading for gear
3) trading for p gems for rerolling those charms/ammys. (and you both argued that one P gem will slow you down in doing this? when that Um can get you many more P gems, or significantly slow you down on this if you trade for it with P gems? Faulty logic boys.)

I don't care how rich you are, those three things right there are a better use of an UM than an extra 3% resist all in a one slot shield.

The only reason to add an UM in a one socket shield is to stroke your ego and as a way to show off your on-line riches, which is is fine if that is what gets you excited. But for most players saying put an Um in it is unrealistic.

Why would an item stroke my ego? It's just a game , not real life you know. Also , I don't need to show off my items , I play the game because I like it , not to show other people how poor / wealthy I am.

Also , I already said that if I need another Um for any other reason , I will either use one I found myself , or trade for another one. And again , that extra 3% resist does matter to me. If it doesn't to you , fine with you , but for me it does.

secondly , there's alot better trading stuff around on NL , not many people prefer Um as trade value.

I don't care how rich you are, those three things right there are a better use of an UM than an extra 3% resist all in a one slot shield.

Who are you to say that I'm doing a "bad" thing when socketing an Um in a shield. Is it your Um?