questions concerning ww/trapper hybrid

[Weltkriegpally]

questions concerning ww/trapper hybrid

Hey guys. as usual, I have checked the guides, and found a lot of useful information in them. i have decided to try my hand at a pvp ww/trap hybrid sin. I am really thinking that I want to give it a go with a physical damage based (this is on ladder), so here are a few things I was looking at and maybe you guys could help me with the decisions I need to make.

I really really stink at teleporting, so if I use enigma, please be notified that I won't be teleporting with it. I also like the idea of 75% block vs. melee, so am going to have max block with a shield (probably a ss). with this said, bos is probably my best bet for the speed that it will give me running and trap laying.

I am not sure if I want venom or not, but I am positive that I will max claw mastery for the attack rating, damage, and critical bonuses that I can achieve with it. I am also going to think about us ing fortitude, enigma, or even somethign else for an armor. I am not going for the venom/ow route entirely...would prefer to let it be if at all possible.

questions, though. should I go dual claw or not? if I do, then the second claw will be my 271 ed/fools/40 ias runics, probably either Lo or eth this. resists are certainly not needed.
If I use fort, then should I use arachnid mesh and a pair of 20 fcr gloves? this gives me the 65 fcr bp for mind blast. could also be trangs if I really wanted to bother with venom. I have a whole slough of rare fcr rings to choose from, including one that gives 10 fcr/17 str/144 ar/other mods and others with resists/life/etc. I am thinking that dual ravens is better for ar, damage, mana, etc, though, or raven/soj for mana and +skill. since I am thinking ss at the moment, then maybe a chaos in a scissors suwayyah, as I believe it possesses the most damage.

if I follow the raven/soj route with arachnids and trangs gloves, then maybe this for a gear layout?
ber shako/um kiras
-15/resist jewel ss
gores (upped is likely)
chaos high damage claw
fortitude scarab/fort
highlords (deadly strike)
raven
soj
trangs gloves
arachnid mesh
gives me a total of +6 all, for a level 7 ww..one short of that level 8 I need to break even on whirlwind damage requirements. I could use a cta on switch, but I don't know here. it all depends, I guess.

I don't know if this is a good setup or not, I guess I need you guys to point out flaws in my gear. note that I have nearly a complete inventory of 10/xx/life charms and smalls, also resist/lifers and such as needed. would I need many trap/shadow charms to make this girl shine? the traps are just there to take out guys I can't get to or isn't wise to ww vs (barbs come to mind). I will have one and only one point in mindblast, so that is it as far as that goes. as far as traps...should I consider a caster switch and forego having all the fcr on one side? I have the hoto+ss or whatever it is I would need. I am not at all opposed to losing the arachnids/etc for more useful items in those slots. If anyone has any input, please point it out. I am not sure on this sin and would really like it to be useful.

--welt

 

[eLight]

Add a Anni to your inv and you got a 8 skill ww. Just read your post very fast so you maybe already have added that point?

 

[firstnamedereklastnamedoo]

use dflight then it always hits but its short range id use traps to stun mainly, though i used to have a ghost sin and my lite traps killed people too but if you go too much trap than your ww will suck visa versa my ghost had about 4k lite trap damage with a full inv of shadows discps i also read this very fast
btw ww sins physical damage is sucky compared to barbs so youd want to deal damage others ways thats why i dont suggest fort

 

['22'Souljah]

anything ww sin with one claw willl be garbage on the ww sin side

 

[Gimmershred]

questions, though. should I go dual claw or not? if I do, then the second claw will be my 271 ed/fools/40 ias runics, probably either Lo or eth this. resists are certainly not needed.
--welt

Are you europe ladder? do you trade those claws? i need them for an 3fpa assasinbear

 

[Gimmershred]

Also take a look at my thread of the lacerator+phoenix+forti kicker if you are interested in a physical damage build. It describes a dtalon kicker hitting 4k physical damage and still having max block and 2600 life after bo, she will also have 50% dr using fade + coa um/um and verdungos (also 120 more life).
Also she has around 40% ow and lvl 20-ish venom.

http://forums.diabloii.net/showthread.php?t=369222

 

[Gimmershred]

Oh and souljah, i saw you were wondering what damage an assabear would do in my guide to non-druid bears

well, with the claw weltkrieg has and a forti+ss setup with max block it would hit around 500-1200 damage. Cs from claw mastery, venom and other stuff isnt taken into account yet. It might look low but you are quite the speedfreak with it.

So damage is about the same as those babawolves wich use grisweapon (they hit 900-ish damage i think)

If you add a phoenix instead of SS and go max block with it, it would do around 800-2000 damage

p.s. sorry to hijack this thread a bit welt.

 

[Speederländer]

Nef that fools claw. The benefit vs. pallys (a big part of your melee duels) is BIG. Try it, I think you'll like it a lot. You can always unsocket if you don't.

 

[Weltkriegpally]

granted, speed. so the general concensus seems to be I should lose the shield. one thing I noticed is that most of the sins I have dueled (and have friends that duel with) benefit immensely from a shield vs. melees. it cuts your hit rate down, but it also grants you a lot more effective life and works while walking/running even if at reduced efficiency. as far as the skill setup goes, could anyone help me out with it? I would prefer not to use venom, but if I have to, I have to. I can always remake.

--welt

 

[gunske]

dude you easy can get 4 k venom that's just EXTRA dmg
my assa does 7.2 k ww on chaos after pre-buff and i just need 3-4 hits vs a twinked/bugged baba.
mu chances on this duel is 50% winning :clap:

 

[Weltkriegpally]

dude you easy can get 4 k venom that's just EXTRA dmg
my assa does 7.2 k ww on chaos after pre-buff and i just need 3-4 hits vs a twinked/bugged baba.
mu chances on this duel is 50% winning :clap:

maybe so, but what if that barb uses any kind of plr or +max resist? also note that I will not be prebuffing with anymore than shadow claws (if that, it may be a cta and spirit) and I won't have 10 shadow charms in my inventory. by far the greater portion of them will be ar/damage/life charms, which will help my hit rate considerably.

--welt