Questions about AR and Mana Leech. How much ar do you need in hell? I think with my gear, I have around 8000 or so. I'm using 6% arreats, 25% leviathan, stormshield, grandfather, ravenfost, rare ar/leech/stat ring, goreriders, steelrends and metalgrid. I think I cheesed out on dex to get more vit because in classic, you never needed to put much points into dex at all to hit anything in hell and I just used angelics when I dueled. Now in xpac, ar is completely changed and I reckon that I need more since I'm not hitting. This causing problems since when I don't hit, I obviously do not leech. Which reminds me, assuming you can't get a botd, how much mana leech do you need to never worry about mana for whirlwind? In classic, all you needed was very little, but I got a menald/cresent moon ammy on another barb and I'm still having leech problems on nightmare. Is this a leech problem or ar problem? Thanks for answering my questions on ar and leech. I really appreciate it.