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Question on Smite

Discussion in 'Single Player Forum' started by Zhao_Yue, Apr 16, 2005.

  1. Zhao_Yue

    Zhao_Yue IncGamers Member

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    Question on Smite

    I'm designing a PvP build on paper but one nagging problem is weapon range. My perferred choice for a weapon has a range of 1, but my secondary choice has a range of 3. When comparing the two choices, would the range difference hamper the effectiveness of smiting to a large degree in PvP?
     
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    I n d e e d .
     
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    Not really. The range 3 weapon will be lend more hit on a WW barb than range 1 but if you're planning of using the range 1 unique scepter (i.e redeemer), it's worth the range sacrifice IMO.

    PS: I have 2 PvP smiters and they are doing well right now with range 1. Even vs fury druid with a range 5 weapon.
     
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    The only time smite range really comes into play is vs. a ww barb, and in those cases you'll probably lose at least 80% of the time regardless of what you use (unless it's a Grief PB). I can see only two cases where'd you want something other than redeemer:

    -Stacking resists. You'll probably want a Silence phase blade for this.
    -Stacking open wounds. Best option is a Malice phase blade/cryptic sword.
     
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    NSXdreamer IncGamers Member

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    Little hijack, when people talk about stacking resist, why can't you keep the weapon but use a high resist zak shield with 4 sockets of appropriate gems?
     
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    The +skills from HoZ are realy important to a smiter. +4 = ~400 smite dmg. Oh, and for my own smiter, I use silence PB because i can swap my highlord for mara and still get a 6pfa smite.
     
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    IIRC a Grief PB along with a high level fanaticism will hit 6 frame smite with no additional IAS. The IAS can be made up for elsewhere, but that limits other socket/runeword options, and the difference between range 2 and 3 isn't that big.

    For a ww barb, however, a Grief zerker is the best option (war axe has lower requirements, but the barb will probably be using a Beast zerker anyways). Unfortunately if the Grief spawns with lower than 35 IAS it's utterly useless to a whirler.
     
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    Did I die, comback and miss a patch in the interim? Grief is bnet runeword requiring a Lo.

    Or is this one of those ask the SP'ers cause we're thought to know more?
     
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    Grief is stil not enable. If you read the whole thread you will see that kabal told that you couldn't beat a whirler except with a Grief PB then it degenerated in what would be the best weapon for grief if it would be enable discussion.
     
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    Excuse my ignorance. So it was the SP is perceived as knowledgable type of thing.

    As obscenely rich as some SP PvP'ers are I doubt anyone could really put together a set up to compete with bnet equip (in rune wealth terms).

    With that said, can an SP'er generally compete with a bnetter in PvP or is equipment more important than skill? (i.e. you could give me the same equip as Tiger Woods but I don't think I'd win the Masters and time soon).
     
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    Between loaning items from other people and using my own resources, I could probably match a bnet pvp whirler in terms of equipment (eBotD + Beast is a start, I still need the Enigma :p) but I can't even begin to get the charms that they have on b.net. Generally speaking, the rich pvp barbs on b.net have 39 fine SC's of vita (3/20/20's) and a perfect stats annihilus, all of which which are unobtainable in SP. The annihilus can't even drop in unmodded SP, and I doubt that there are even 39 legit 3/20/20's out there in SP. Even strijdje, who was/is far richer than anyone else in SP, has to use 3/1x/1x charms because he doesn't have that many 3/20/20's.

    Unfortunately, the quality of equipment plays a large part in how successful someone can be in pvp. This tends to be especially true for melee builds, but even the most budget-friendly caster characters like sorcs have uber-rare high end gear (skillers w/ 40+ life). Skill and character planning are still the biggest parts of dueling, but I wouldn't expect to win much if my ww barb were using anything short of 2x Death Cleavers.
     

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