Question about Vista and fast user switching.

[bladesyz]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

I'll respond with an *old* YouTube clip...

Your problems with XP are quite likely due to your laptop. And considering that I can get performance like that in the video with 512Mb, I'd rather use my RAM on apps than Aero.

Or DRM.

Well, that was a waste of 5 minutes I'll never get back. That video had nothing to do with Vista's performance.

Also, the high RAM required by Vista is used to speed up applications through caching.
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000688.html

 

[BobCox2]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

So I bought a 8 Gig Kingston flash usb stick for 16 bucks the other day

As a old guy that started with a Apple IIE at 18 or so and got into computers back in the day it's amazing how the world still keeps getting better cheaper faster.
Right now its bootable to win98 and a repair kit but I'm thinking what else can I do with it...

In a few years I expect most of us to be carrying our computers as bootable plug in flash memory devices with backup done to optical disk for the EMP pulse survival and the standard model of computer to be built on the function it serves in the mechanical hardware attached to it with a few standardized hardware platforms being almost universal.
The flash OS books and offers you a menu for that platform and what you want to access with or via it.


But thats just me and I'm the kind of visionary that See's it coming and can't get out of the way, but seems to somehow make money so far.

IMHO that will be fast user switching.

 

[Johnny]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

I'll respond with an *old* YouTube clip...

That video says so much about linux and mac users. "Hey man look, my icons are bouncy! bouncy man and... and... and when I close my windows they're all sparkly and ****. Oh man I think I'm tripping! the windows are all wavey and stuff when you move them. This OS totally rocks"

They should start selling PCs with sparkly stickers all over. The mac community would suck it up in a flash.

 

[jmervyn]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

Well, that was a waste of 5 minutes I'll never get back. That video had nothing to do with Vista's performance.

Sure it did - the fact that Aero looks like a sick dog by comparison with Beryl, yet requires substantial horsepower to run? I'll grant you that if you don't care about eye candy in the first place then you've probably got it disabled... but then remind me why you'd choose Vista in the first place?

Oh, yeah, I forgot, you <3 invasive DRM. :crazyeyes:

Also, the high RAM required by Vista is used to speed up applications through caching.
http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/000688.html

I've got a bridge to sell, if you're interested. Bad programming does not translate to speeding something up (it's the same idiocy, if not the same "technology"). M$FT has taken many shots at improving their bloatware's search abilty, and they're STILL screwing the pooch. But hey, they brought you Clippy!

That video says so much about linux and mac users. "Hey man look, my icons are bouncy! bouncy man and... and... and when I close my windows they're all sparkly and ****. Oh man I think I'm tripping! the windows are all wavey and stuff when you move them. This OS totally rocks"

Must be why Aero was one of the only two "features" with which M$FT tried to sell Fista... the other, of course, being greater security. :whistling:

They should start selling PCs with sparkly stickers all over. The mac community would suck it up in a flash.

*nix systems have always been the bedrock of automation, Troll-boy... the reason for developing stuff like this beryl interface is precisely <because> Windoze users are attracted by shiny objects.

Or did the fact that "It playz my gamez" emerging as the constant reason for tolerating Vista escape you, as so many other things do?

 

[bladesyz]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

Sure it did - the fact that Aero looks like a sick dog by comparison with Beryl, yet requires substantial horsepower to run? I'll grant you that if you don't care about eye candy in the first place then you've probably got it disabled... but then remind me why you'd choose Vista in the first place?

Oh, yeah, I forgot, you <3 invasive DRM. :crazyeyes:
I've got a bridge to sell, if you're interested. Bad programming does not translate to speeding something up (it's the same idiocy, if not the same "technology"). M$FT has taken many shots at improving their bloatware's search abilty, and they're STILL screwing the pooch. But hey, they brought you Clippy!
Must be why Aero was one of the only two "features" with which M$FT tried to sell Fista... the other, of course, being greater security. :whistling:
*nix systems have always been the bedrock of automation, Troll-boy... the reason for developing stuff like this beryl interface is precisely <because> Windoze users are attracted by shiny objects.

Or did the fact that "It playz my gamez" emerging as the constant reason for tolerating Vista escape you, as so many other things do?

Dude, considering that you claim to be a sysadmin for windows, I'd think you would make more sense.

Regarding your little bridge link: what does Office 95/97 have to do with Windows Vista? Why don't you address the caching issue instead of trying to change the subject?

And just because Microsoft markets Vista with Aero, doesn't mean I have to care about it.

And you know what? "It playz my gamez" is the main reason I'd spend 2000+ bucks on a new computer, and I suspect that's the main reason 99% of us here would spend money on a better comp, so I don't exactly think it's something trivial.

 

[jmervyn]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

Dude, considering that you claim to be a sysadmin for windows, I'd think you would make more sense.

If all I'd ever been was a Windows sysadmin aka MCSA, I'd make far less sense.

Regarding your little bridge link: what does Office 95/97 have to do with Windows Vista? Why don't you address the caching issue instead of trying to change the subject?

I did, but you missed it. FindFast was the same crap design problem with disk indexing that you've got in Vista.

And just because Microsoft markets Vista with Aero, doesn't mean I have to care about it.

Since it was one of only two prominent reasons to buy, then what excuse is there for using it (other than being forced to do so)?

And you know what? "It playz my gamez" is the main reason I'd spend 2000+ bucks on a new computer, and I suspect that's the main reason 99% of us here would spend money on a better comp, so I don't exactly think it's something trivial.

Then we have little more to talk about, if all you buy a new computer for is better gaming. I work; I play games when I have the time, and money is going to be increasingly tight.

And mommies and daddies won't be as willing to plonk down $2K bucks just to satisfy junior's hardware lust.

 

[Dondrei]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

I wouldn't say it's harder or easier. Doesn't matter what OS you use, you just have to enter in the info. Once it was in, it worked fine.

My problem was, it would reset to DHCP upon reboot, losing all my static IP info in the process, thereby forcing me to re-enter it all.

After searching online through a few dead ends, I found that the answer was to "jiggle" the buttons a bit (Deselect an option, enter the info, re-select the option). I think it was a problem with how the network manager requested (or didn't, in this case) root access to change the underlying files. Just entering the information and hitting apply wasn't enough to cause it to request the admin password, whereas de-selecting one of the random options and re-selecting it would trigger the password box and then you could be sure it would actually save your changes upon exit. Or something.

Either way, a very Linux moment. :thumbup:

So, a permissions issue huh? At work I'd say 99.9999% of our problems come from permissions issues on our Linux (and formerly Unix) server.

 

[bladesyz]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

If all I'd ever been was a Windows sysadmin aka MCSA, I'd make far less sense.
I did, but you missed it. FindFast was the same crap design problem with disk indexing that you've got in Vista.
Since it was one of only two prominent reasons to buy, then what excuse is there for using it (other than being forced to do so)?
Then we have little more to talk about, if all you buy a new computer for is better gaming. I work; I play games when I have the time, and money is going to be increasingly tight.

And mommies and daddies won't be as willing to plonk down $2K bucks just to satisfy junior's hardware lust.

Ok... I don't see Vista's Superfetch slowing things down, so whatever your FindFast article is trying to prove, it's irrelevant.

As for work, you can easily get a setup for under 1000$. And I buy my own gaming comps, thank you very much. In any case, the point is, if I buy a new comp mainly for gaming, why the hell would I choose an OS that doesn't run half the games I want to play?

 

[korialstraz]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

And mommies and daddies won't be as willing to plonk down $2K bucks just to satisfy junior's hardware lust.

I think my mommie and daddie will be glad to know I buy my own stuff :thumbup:

 

[BobCox2]

Re: Question about Vista and fast user switching.

So, a permissions issue huh? At work I'd say 99.9999% of our problems come from permissions issues on our Linux (and formerly Unix) server.

Try dealing with group policy's getting set or changed on servers in Microsoft.