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Question about Throw Barb Wepaons

Discussion in 'Barbarian' started by talendar, Mar 14, 2004.

  1. talendar

    talendar IncGamers Member

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    Question about Throw Barb Wepaons

    I was just wondering what is better for a throw barb damage wise?



    Demon's Arch
    Balrog Spear

    Throw Damage: (104-124) To (161-192) (132.5-158 Avg)
    One-Hand Damage: (85-102) To (163-195) (124-148.5 Avg)
    Required Level: 68
    Required Strength: 127
    Required Dexterity: 95
    Base Weapon Speed: [10]
    Max Stack (80)
    +160-210% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    Adds 232-323 Fire Damage
    Adds 23-333 Lightning Damage
    +30% Increased Attack Speed
    6-12% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
    Replenishes Quantity [1 in 3 sec.]
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

    Wraith Flight
    Ghost Glaive

    Throw Damage: (112-130) To (317-368) (214.5-249 Avg)
    One-Hand Damage: (70-81) To (225-261) (147.5-171 Avg)
    Required Level: 76
    Required Strength: 79
    Required Dexterity: 127
    Base Weapon Speed: [20]
    Max Stack (75)
    +150-190% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    9-13% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
    +15 To Mana After Each Kill
    Replenishes Quantity [1 in 2 sec.]
    Ethereal (Cannot Be Repaired)*
    (Ladder Only)
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

    Gargoyle's Bite
    Winged Harpoon

    Throw Damage: (30-36) To (215-254) (122.5-145 Avg)
    One-Hand Damage: (75-89) To (98-115) (86.5-102 Avg)
    Required Level: 70
    Required Strength: 76
    Required Dexterity: 145
    Base Weapon Speed: [-10]
    Max Stack (80)
    +180-230% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    +293 Poison Damage Over 10 Seconds
    Level 11 Plague Javelin (60 charges)
    9-15% Life Stolen Per Hit (varies)
    Replenishes Quantity [1 in 3 sec.]
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

    Elite Unique Throwing Weapons
    (See Elite Normal Throwing Weapons)


    Warshrike
    Winged Knife

    Throw Damage: (69-80) To (117-136) (93-108 Avg)
    One-Hand Damage: (81-94) To (105-122) (93-108 Avg)
    Required Level: 75
    Required Strength: 45
    Required Dexterity: 142
    Base Weapon Speed: [-20]
    Max Stack: (200)
    +200-250% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    50% Deadly Strike
    +30% Increased Attack Speed
    Piercing Attack [50]
    25% Chance To Cast Level 9 Nova On Striking
    Replenishes Quantity [1 in 3 sec.]
    (Ladder Only)
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

    Gimmershred
    Flying Axe

    Throw Damage: (39-46) To (171-204) (105-125 Avg)
    One-Hand Damage: (44-52) To (169-201) (106.5-126.5 Avg)
    Required Level: 70
    Required Strength: **
    Required Dexterity: 108
    Base Weapon Speed: [10]
    Max Stack: (240)
    +160-210% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    Adds 218-483 Fire Damage
    Adds 29-501 Lightning Damage
    Adds 176-397 Cold Damage, 4 sec. Duration (Normal)
    +30% Increased Attack Speed
    Increased Stack Size [60]
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

    Lacerator
    Winged Axe

    Throw Damage: (17-21) To (150-186) (83.5-103.5 Avg)
    One-Hand Damage: (27-34) To (140-173) (83.5-103.5 Avg)
    Required Level: 68
    Required Strength: 96
    Required Dexterity: 122
    Base Weapon Speed: [-10]
    Max Stack: (180)
    +150-210% Enhanced Damage (varies)
    +30% Increased Attack Speed
    33% Chance of Open Wounds
    Prevent Monster Heal
    Hit Causes Monster To Flee 50%
    33% Chance To Cast Level 3 Amplify Damage On Striking
    Replenishes Quantity [1 in 4 sec.]
    (Only Spawns In Patch 1.10 or later)

    Or should I cube a cruel elite throwing weapon? Also do you think you could tell me what reciepe is used for cubeing elite throwing weapons in 1.10 and what elite throwing weapons can have cruel mods on them? Sorry for the annoying post if its annoying but there doesn't seem to be that many throw barbs on bnet so I just wanted to ask. I am using two Gimmershreds atm and it doesn't seem like my guy is doing enough damage in 8 player hell games so I just wanted to ask about this sort of thing. Also will a razor tail and other ias gear help to increase my damage?
     
  2. WackenOpenAir

    WackenOpenAir IncGamers Member

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    damage the ghost is obviously best.
    for pvm, good stack is important. from gimmer, warshrike, lacerator, i prefer warshrikes.

    my thrower does 5k with dual gimmers btw, also deadly strike from highlords. That is not bad, how much does yours?
    I want to get warshrikes for him though.
     
  3. Xiamet

    Xiamet IncGamers Member

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    hey Wacken...

    Do us a fav and post your Throwbarb's build/stats/gear?

    Call me curious,

    -X
     
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    WackenOpenAir IncGamers Member

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    hel-lum-fal armor
    highlords ammy
    2 gimmers (to be replaced by lacerators)
    dwardstar
    ravenfrost
    thundergods vigor
    wartravelers (not anymore, sorc died with them)
    Arreats (not yet, used substitute instead, now waiting to get one)
    IK gloves

    naked stats aprox: (cant log in now for exact)

    90-250-140-base (planned to limmit myself to 100 vit, but since i kinda liked my damage already and i play HCL, i decided to add 50)

    skills:

    20 throw mastery
    20 double swing
    1 double throw
    20 BO
    5 grim ward
    5 howl
    2 nat resist
    1 inc speed

    This resuls in about 1400 life with BO, but no vita charms. i have obtained vita and fine charms since i last played him, that should help him. Also have i obtained natures peace. I might use that instead of dwarf star for the oak sage. All that should get me over 2k life. Never expected to have that when i started this build :)
    For now, its been a while since i played him. I decided to go mfing first to get an arreats and new wartravelers. These items are kinda all that i would like on him. Chains of honor would be nice to replace the armor but.... so expensive, never gonna happen. One other thing might be whisp projector instead and then replace thundergods by something better. But that doesnt have much priority either.
    I would like to obtain 2 warshrikes for him, this would lower his screen damage quite a bit, but the deadly strike and better speed would more than make up for that i think.
     
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    Wraith Flight are too slow for use PvP or PvM
    Demon Archs have too small stack for PvM
    Same with gargolye's

    Warshieke/Gimmer is a good combo with Lacerator

    Use Gimmer//Lacerator if you're all about damage on the display screen
    Use Warshieke/Lacerator if you're more subtle
    I suggest dual Warskrieke for PvP
     
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    Xiamet IncGamers Member

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    Wacjen

    Thanks for posting the build. Nice setup, gear-wise, since most of that is accessable to the average player. nice to hear you're getting that kind've damage with Throw Weapons.

    I'd suggest a Razortail belt for any Thrower, as 33% chance to pierce really helps the kill rate when hitting multiple targets.

    I think it's a shame that a Throwbarb has to have 2 Masteries if he wants to melee once in awhile....it's really the only thing keeping me from making a Thrower...that and I need a Gimmers to go with my Lacerator. :)

    -X
     

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