Question about pvp bone necro

[elmek]

Question about pvp bone necro

Hey,

I'm planning to create a pvp bone necro. Which of these setups is better generally:

HOTO+SS (max block)
HOTO+Spirit (full vita, no block)
Spirit sword + SS (max block, better fhr than one above, max block, lower damage)
White+??

Thanks for any input. Also how much life can I expect? Can necro get 3k+ life?

 

[clairetay]

er hoto+ss = vs melee
hoto+ spirit = vs caster..
3k life? maybe with 6bo cta, gg pnb lifers

 

[elmek]

er hoto+ss = vs melee
hoto+ spirit = vs caster..
3k life? maybe with 6bo cta, gg pnb lifers

So shall I pump dex to have max block with ss, then wear spirit? That'll leave me with crappy block anyways most of the time (pub duels and such). :undecided:

 

[clairetay]

u could get max block with ss then just switch to spirit if u meet some 125 or 200 fcr casters but thats just my opinion u would have to wait for those gg duelers for more gg ans

 

[sorceressgod]

using hoto means lower resists...

i gave up on necros in pvp because they were too mana intensive .

 

[elmek]

@clairetay: ...gg duelers for more gg ans... - what do you mean by this?

@sorceressgod: I think you meant higher resists with hoto. But necros look really cool and with insight merc you shouldn't have mana problems, unless he's not allowed...

 

[Ce Olba]

@clairetay: ...gg duelers for more gg ans... - what do you mean by this?

He means to have max block with SS when needed, but to use spirit versus casters.

@sorceressgod: I think you meant higher resists with hoto. But necros look really cool and with insight merc you shouldn't have mana problems, unless he's not allowed...

Actually, I think he means "lower" with hoto, due to the +75 on Wizspike. That's 35 more than a perfect hoto.

 

[Uncle_Mike]

@clairetay: ...gg duelers for more gg ans... - what do you mean by this?

@sorceressgod: I think you meant higher resists with hoto. But necros look really cool and with insight merc you shouldn't have mana problems, unless he's not allowed...

does this mean you are not making your smiter? :laugh:

I guess i would go the block route but that is advice based on my playstyle rather than experience with pvp necros. You will have at least a bit of minion stack (golem) so that you can getaway with a hit or two but bvcs and amazons would give you extremely hard time I assume.

I am quite sure that clairetay suggested that you wait for experienced duellers to post in the thread.

Good luck with your new char :thumbsup:
Mike

 

[elmek]

does this mean you are not making your smiter? :laugh:

I guess i would go the block route but that is advice based on my playstyle rather than experience with pvp necros. You will have at least a bit of minion stack (golem) so that you can getaway with a hit or two but bvcs and amazons would give you extremely hard time I assume.

I am quite sure that clairetay suggested that you wait for experienced duellers to post in the thread.

Good luck with your new char :thumbsup:
Mike

Hey Mike,

My smiter is ready to go, boner would be my second char actually as he looks much more cheap :thumbsup:
I'll try to PM you later on for some duels if you wish.

How much life does one score with max block with SS? I assume over 2k :scratch:

 

[IEqualsGood]

homunculus is actually very efficient for blocking and all around if you can hit that 125 FCR elsewhere. My setup is: 40 fcr hoto, 20 arach, 20 circlet, 20 magefist/trangs, 20 on x2 fcr resis attb rings, 5+ on a crafted ammy. This leaves homu to cap res, cham if necessary, good skills, and have good block.

Also...this allows 0 str points wasted, the highest str require is 200% ED up'd um'd homu and with mageplate enigma, e-treks, 20 str ring, anni/torch, str on ammy/circlet this is easily accomplished. With 0 str points I currently have 152 str. I guess if your gear is a bit better than mine you wouldn't need to use any str for a monarch...but if you use spirit and start replacing those fcr rings with insane str/dex for skills it will hurt.

 

[elmek]

Is it a good idea to Eld SS for more blocking? Looks like it could save me bunch of dex points...

 

[StillGreen]

Is it a good idea to Eld SS for more blocking? Looks like it could save me bunch of dex points...

It depends on if you have enough str from your other gear. Puting a hel or -15% req jewel can save you 23 points to str.

The dex you save by using an eld depends on the level of your necro but it will not save you more than 21 points. For a level 99 necro (where the gap is the largest), you'll need 237 dex for SS with no eld. You'll need 216 dex if you put the eld in.

For example, I can reach 134 str with my gear and no str points invested. It would be better for me to hel the SS rather than to eld it. However, keep in mind that I don't plan to use a spirit shield. If you are investing points to use a spirit anyway, then go ahead and eld your SS.

edit: This is not considering the str bug which I don't use because it gets annoying on corpse retrieval.

 

[clairetay]

yes u can get max block with homocus but u wont get the dr that u have on ss i still think if u go max block its betetr to use ss.... way too many bvc n smiters in pubs nowadays

 

[elmek]

Ok, I think I'll get my 35 fcr spirit for general play and keep my Eld SS for melee duels.
One more question: Is it a good idea to put one pt in revives for minion stacking? I dont like wasting skills and it looks like to me...
I assume I'd help a lot for those v/t and other. Or maybe oak+golem+merc maybe is enough?

 

[Nab]

id say hoto/SS is a better option in public games. most peopel duel with caster nowadays, resist is a must.
since you lose the 55fhr from nt using spirit sword, instead of the typical 2/20/20 circs people are using now, id get a 2/20/40.
thats enough to help you hit the 86fhr, which IMO is all you really need

 

[elmek]

Unfortunately I'm not that wealthy and dont have 2/20/40 nor 2/20/20. In this case the best bet will be shako + spirit sword until I acquire one of those.