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Question about 2H staves.

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by seffe, Jun 3, 2008.

  1. seffe

    seffe IncGamers Member

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    Question about 2H staves.

    Hey.

    I wanna know what kind of skills 2H stave can have from this:

    +2soso?
    +3firball?
    +3Fire mastery?
    +x Warmth?
    +x Es?

    fcr?

    6sox?

    preferly i would love it as white 5sox if thats even possible, so i could make cta in it also :jig:

    If a stave with similiar stats i wrote exist?!? i will search for it and make a funny char.
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    All staves that look like they can have 5sox CAN have 5sox, IIRC.

    However, "Warmth" is a tier 1 skill, and won't show up on staves with tier 5 and 6 skills such as ES and masteries.

    All rare and magic staves can have +2 sorc as long as the affix level is high enough (but that makes warmth a huge problem again) and magic ones can have +3 fire skills.

    All staves can have staffmods, but 3*3 is the most skills possible on magics, rares, whites and crafts. Cracked and the likes can have 3*1 max.
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    So basically its possible for a stave to have 0-6sox, 20fcr?,+2soso,+3fireball,+3fire mastery and maybe es also?
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    No, you could have a staff with 0-2 sockets, 2 sorc, 20fcr, 3fire ball, 3 fire mastery and 3 es. So, anything above 2soc is impossible with magical/rare items. (helvete, don't say a thing about version 1.07 :rolleyes:)

    Have you tried Memory runeword? It gives 3 sorc skills, 33fcr, 20% max mana and +3 es. Use a staff with already +3 es and you have staff with +9 es! Of course, you'd have to find a staff with 4soc, +3 fb, +3fm etc to do it. Like this one had +3es staff mod before socketing:

    Memory
    Gnarled Staff
    'LumIoSolEth'
    Two-Hand Damage: 13 to 14
    Durability: 27 of 35
    Required Level: 37
    Staff Class - Slow Attack Speed
    Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
    Item Level: 66
    Fingerprint: 0x68a4b85d
    +10 to Energy
    +10 to Vitality
    +50% Enhanced Defense
    +9 to Minimum Damage
    Magic Damage Reduced by 7
    Increase Maximum Mana 20%
    +3 to Sorceress Skill Levels
    33% Faster Cast Rate
    +2 to Static Field (Sorceress Only)
    +3 to Energy Shield (Sorceress Only)
    +3 to Energy Shield (Sorceress Only)
    -25% Target Defense
    150% Damage to Undead
    Socketed (4: 4 used)

    Single Player item, readout is from Atma (accepted program in this forums).
     
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    seffe IncGamers Member

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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Ye i know about memory.

    I just wanted a 2hand stave with those stats i wrote for a fun char.

    I was kind of dreaming to make a cta in a 5sox Archon stave/staff whatever the name is.
    with +2sorc,+3fireball,+3firem,+3es,20fcr, but it sounds to good to be true i guess. :prop:
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Ok, I misunderstood you a little. White/Grey staff can't have +sorc skills or +sorc tree skills or fcr. Those are magical affixes. So you could have 5soc Archon Staff with +3 Fireball, +3 Fire Mastery and +3 ES
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Ah, but you forget the Artisan's/Jeweler's prefix on Magic staves! :jig:

    I just checked both the inDiablo affix table and the AS prefixes, and both show that Artisan's/Jeweler's can spawn on all magic weapons (which are big enough to hold so many sockets, though).

    [/nitpick]



     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Ah, but you forget the Artisan's/Jeweler's prefix on Magic staves! :jig:

    I just checked both the inDiablo affix table and the AS prefixes, and both show that Artisan's/Jeweler's can spawn on all magic weapons (which are big enough to hold so many sockets, though).

    [/nitpick]

    I also found out that staves can't feature the FCR mod. So, that staff is impossible (even if we ignore the impossibility of 4 automods and 2 prefixes at the same time)



     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    well fcr is the least needed.
    the stats i want must be on it if possible, but the weapon is only intresting if you can make rw in it.
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Well, it's obviously impossible to get +2 sorc skills on a white staff - it's an Archangel's prefix. You can, however, get any 3 staffmods in combination (with the exception of a few ones, IIRC. Don't remember which ones).
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Um...you might want to double check your sources. "Of the Apprentice" and "Of the Magus" are relatively common affixes.



     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    My bad, my bad. You are right, TGT :doh: (This smiley scares me).
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    So cut the all skill mode.

    Can it look like this?

    20fcr
    +3Fireball
    +3Firemastery
    +3es
    5sox rw doable?
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    20%fcr can't spawn on grey, runewordable items. So that leaves you at:

    +3Fireball
    +3Firemastery
    +3es
    5 sockets.

    Good luck finding one though.
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    ok.

    Will try get it though.



     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Is this CtA for a melee build? In that case, you're looking for an Archon Staff.... which is TC87, which again means it's rarer than Mang Songs....
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Well i mostly looking for a stave for a fun char.

    5sox for cta and maxxed fire damage possible and es since i dont have shield.

    It will be maxxed fireball/mastery/Meteor maybe/es.
    If i never find the one i like i maybe take a 6sox and put 6 rbfs in it or something.
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    Why ES?

    Why not just use a Memory to prebuff? The most ES you'll get on a CTA staff is +5 on Memory you can get +9.
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    I actually did a little math on ES with no skill points invested in ES. If you have the best possible gear, it is possible to have something like:
    +9 staff
    +12 amu, helm, torch and ormus
    +10 anni and skillers
    +3 arach and skill rings
    +3 skill shrine and BC

    If that heavily prebuffed, it's a lvl 37 ES, which is like 37 min duration and 92% damage will affect mana, not life.

    So basically only missing 3 lvls of ES from the cap which is 95%. Should be plenty. 20 hardpoints in TK and it's still one hell of an ES sorc.
     
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    Re: Question about 2H staves.

    I only wanted to try with 1 weapon, no switch/prebuff.

    but as its not possible with stats i want im kind of dropped it.

    Even if i go through with it, the stave will be the thoughest to find, and i dont think i will have patience to wait for something like that.
     

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