Questdrops?

[TheBigClown]

Questdrops?

I hope this is the right place to ask this question. Otherwise I'm sorry.

When does questdrops happen?

1) When a player creates a game all the end-bosses who he has not killed for the completion of that given act are set to have questdrops. This can be exploited by anyone who enters the game and kills the end-boss.

2) When a player enters a game and have yet to complete the last quest of a given act, but accually can't complete the quest because the creater of the game allready had completed that last quest. A champion could then enter a random trading game and most likely get baal to do him a questdrop.

I played in a game and this became an issue as diablo dropped a really nice item. The rushee thought he should have the item as it was "his questdrop".

 

[assimilateur]

Re: Questdrops?

My knowledge about this is a bit hazy, but I think that only point 1) applies, not 2).

And about the rushee wanting in on Dia's drops: that sorta thing is best solved by agreeing beforehand on "no star" and "my drops". If he were out of the star and hiding in one of the safe spots, he wouldn't even have known what dropped.

 

[krischan]

Re: Questdrops?

1. The first kill drop occurs when somebody personally deals the killing blow on an act boss without having the quest solved, even if he cannot solve the quest in that game, by entering a game which has been created by somebody who already solved the quest. Also, if you kill Andariel for the quest and you talk to an act 1 NPC in the same game (e.g. Warriv who will bring you to act 2), Andy will produce quest drops in subsequent games as well.

2. A quest drop is produced when the character gets the quest solved, e.g. the gems dropped by Andariel, the extra heap of gold from Baal or the stamina potions from the Cow King.

If the guy in your game didn't make the killing blow, no first kill drop has occurred and even if he had, I would keep the item anyway, assuming it was a random guy in a public game.

 

[TheBigClown]

Re: Questdrops?

Okay, let me see if I understand it correctly. You can only have 1 quest drop, where you're sure to get certain items like gems from andy etc., but you can in theory have unlimited first kill drops (e.g. a champion doing baal in a game where the "cannot complete quest" message apear).

So, what's the difference between the "first kill drop" and the "quest drop"? I assume that both drops are better than normal, but maybe the "quest drop" is even better than the "first kill drop"?

 

[krischan]

Re: Questdrops?

Yes, if you do it the right way, you can have an unlimited number of first kill drops.

If you enter a game in which you cannot finish the act boss quest, you will receive a first kill drop if you kill the boss, but no quest drop.

If you enter a game in which you can solve the quest and a party member does the kill who already has solved the quest while you are near the act boss, a quest drop will occur, but no first kill drop.

If you enter a game in which you can solve the quest and you do the kill, a quest drop and a first kill drop will occur.

Quest drops occur in addition to a normal or first kill drop, ignoring the usual maximum of 6 items. I for myself think that a few rather low gems from Andy, an extra gold pile from Baal or a few stamina potions from the Cow Kings are worse than a drop with all items being rare or better, if possible.

 

[TheBigClown]

Re: Questdrops?

Okay. I got it now :thumbup:

I totally agree, a flawed gem, a stamina pot etc. aren't great drop!

So wierd that the quest drop thing is so misunderstood on bnet. Thx for solving the puzzle :thumbup:

Edit: Btw, some months ago I made a baalrun with a friend of mine, I had not yet completed baal and at that time I thought number 1 was the right thing so I had created the game and when we got to baal I landed some crushing blow hits on him and before he died I unpartied so that I wouldn't complete the quest (or so I thought). My friend finished baal off, but I still completed the quest, I was really amazed to see that I completed the quest (for a reference I stood next to him while he died). I wonder what made me complete the quest as I wasn't a part of the party who killed him.

 

[krischan]

Re: Questdrops?

Maybe your character poisoned Baal or his merc had an aura which deals damage, like holy freeze and if that finally killed him, your character would have got the quest solved.

 

[TheBigClown]

Re: Questdrops?

Ahhh...... I had 68% ctc ow (I guess I had it to trigger) and I wore grief, but I don't think I killed him with venom as the psn damage is of short duration, whereas ow is for 200 frames. I had no merc. I guess the mystery is solved for now.

 

[assimilateur]

Re: Questdrops?

If you enter a game in which you can solve the quest and a party member does the kill who already has solved the quest while you are near the act boss, a quest drop will occur, but no first kill drop.

Wouldn't that save the quest, thus keeping you from further exploiting said drop?

 

[georgegrozev]

Re: Questdrops?

2 is right, as long as the killer doesn't have the quest, a questdrop occurs, this is what one of the Sorc builds in this forum is based around.

 

[krischan]

Re: Questdrops?

Wouldn't that save the quest, thus keeping you from further exploiting said drop?

Yes, but with respect to Andariel, see my first posting. I made the examples to point out the difference between a first kill drop and a quest drop.

 

[assimilateur]

Re: Questdrops?

So if I get this right, "quest-bugging" Andariel should actually be called "first-drop-bugging" her?

 

[krischan]

Re: Questdrops?

Yes, but as the real quest drops from act bosses are usually crap, it's probably OK to call the first kill drops like that as well :smug: