PvP WW Barb

MrSmilez

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PvP WW Barb

Now i need these questions to be answered before i can start thinking about aquiring the gear:

1) Dual BotdZ or a single BotdZ and BeastZ
2) Which weapon for BotdZ? Colossous Blade or Berserker Axe?
3) Which weapons on switch?
4) Enigma or Fortitude?
5) Will this be viable for PvM?
6) Can i do Ubers with this build?
7) Which belt? Verdungoes?

Well hopefully someone can answer my questions :thumbup:
 
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biko

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Re: PvP WW Barb

1) Grief and Beast
2) N/A
3) +3 bo and cta or 2x +3 bo
4) Enigma
5) Yes
6) I don't know
 

MrSmilez

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Re: PvP WW Barb

Why not BotdZ? It gives massive +30 to attributes and massive Ll. Or does the Grief just overpower BotdZ in terms of damage. Uhh was looking forward to making a BotdZ. Oh well.
 

Sass

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Re: PvP WW Barb

Grief over powers the average damage. BotD has a high potential, but the min damage is very low. Grief is tight in the average damage and lacks the gap BotD has. When comparing average, Grief comes out on top.



As a side note, Life Leech is penalized in PvP.
 

arbing

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Re: PvP WW Barb

life leech is rendered to almost useless to another player (but okay against miniors of other players e.g. wolves) but still... grief is much better than ebotd in terms of damage, the 30 to stats from ebotd doesn't really do much in pvp. Oh and don't forget the 20% deadly strike on the grief.
 

MrSmilez

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Re: PvP WW Barb

Hmm so Grief for PvP. What about PvM? Would i switch the Grief out and put a EbotdZ on and im set? Also would it be a good idea to put dual Hoto's on switch for tele and would i be able to do ubers? If so with which wep the Grief or Botdz? Also which wep for the Grief? Also which wep for the Beast? Lastly for the base Zerker axe, would i just larzuk it and it will get 6 socks? Thanx
 

Barloc

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Re: PvP WW Barb

Hmm so Grief for PvP. What about PvM? Would i switch the Grief out and put a EbotdZ on and im set? Also would it be a good idea to put dual Hoto's on switch for tele and would i be able to do ubers? If so with which wep the Grief or Botdz? Also which wep for the Grief? Also which wep for the Beast? Lastly for the base Zerker axe, would i just larzuk it and it will get 6 socks? Thanx
Works fine for PvM, I like to swap out greif for botd and go botd/beast for pvm.(Grief/Beast is a must for PvP) All these weapons should be berzerker axes (you can't make beast in swords). Hoto's on switch is great for crazy fast tele to Baal. For Ubers? not 100% sure but if your res is stacked well you might be able use a Fury and go frenzy vs uber.

Larzuk usually gives the max sockets available, personally I try not to depend on that quest to roll for plain sockets as I think it's a waste. I'd definitely use it on something like Arreats or other uniques though.



 

MrSmilez

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Re: PvP WW Barb

Works fine for PvM, I like to swap out greif for botd and go botd/beast for pvm.(Grief/Beast is a must for PvP) All these weapons should be berzerker axes (you can't make beast in swords). Hoto's on switch is great for crazy fast tele to Baal. For Ubers? not 100% sure but if your res is stacked well you might be able use a Fury and go frenzy vs uber.

Larzuk usually gives the max sockets available, personally I try not to depend on that quest to roll for plain sockets as I think it's a waste. I'd definitely use it on something like Arreats or other uniques though.
Ahh ok thanx Barloc.


 

hubb

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Re: PvP WW Barb

Verdungo's for pvp, but string of ears and t-gods are also good options for pvm.

You could do pvm with grief/grief, grief/beast or botd/beast. Grief's ITD is great and 2 of those gives you the best damage, but BOTD has dual leech so you don't have to worry about getting it on a ring, and the ias from beast is great for using berserk.

For ubers I'd put on dracs, prebuff with treachery and get an armor with res like coh or gloom. You could use 1 pt frenzy or put on a stormshield and conc them.

Grief and beast both use 5 sockets so you'll have to use the cube recipe and get lucky.
 

rata

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Re: PvP WW Barb

vendegos - need
fort - situational: better than nigma for most case(s) ..you need leap
nigma - situational: need for bowazons, blizz, fireballers (sometimes)
angelics - default jewelry (to add to discussion)
 

arbing

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Re: PvP WW Barb

.... enigma> fort most of the time, good luck catching a tele nec/sorc or windy with fort... mobility> damage
unless you are dueling people with crazy high defense, highlord +raven is far superior than angelics
verdungo not really need. 31dr from coa +8dr from enigma is decent... spider for fcr when teleing. unless you are like in USWest, where we have a special glove.
 

minuses

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Re: PvP WW Barb

It depends on what you are if weilded ww then enigma is best. Best weild is griefz and beastz.
 

Sass

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Re: PvP WW Barb

vendegos - need
fort - situational: better than nigma for most case(s) ..you need leap
nigma - situational: need for bowazons, blizz, fireballers (sometimes)
angelics - default jewelry (to add to discussion)
I'd call Raven + Highlords more default and Angelics a situational thing vs exceptionally high Def opponents.


 

Trionth

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Re: PvP WW Barb

Frenzy is best suited for Ubers I believe. Put on a Last Wish Zerker and Beast Kerker, Fortitude since you won't need to teleport, stack your resists and go for it.

I don't know how Whirlwind works, if it triggers the CtC, and works with lifetap it should be fine.

EDIT:

What glove do we have on USwest?
 
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arbing

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Re: PvP WW Barb

the special glove that gives 75% all resist, 50fcr, loads of mana.

it shares the stats of a wizardspike dagger. (it's a bugged item)

P.S ctc is not triggered by ww
 
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Trionth

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Re: PvP WW Barb

I have never seen those gloves. I want a pair... bad. 50 FCR will solve my FCR needs for my windy. No more looking for a fricken +2 druid 18+ FCR amulet.

Picture please.

Also, for Ubers on a barb:

Guide.
 

Sass

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Re: PvP WW Barb

It's not a legit item.

They're known as Wizardspike Gloves (normally a dagger).
 

minuses

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Re: PvP WW Barb

so grief+beast > dual grief for pvp??

:( damn ba is so ugly.
No ba is not ugly. Its my favorite to be honest with you. I would go griefz/beastz in pvm too because of the mods on beastz side are too insane to give up. It really helps griefz do killing speed too.


 
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