PvP WW: 1.10 Griswold's Caddy beats CCSoQ? Take a look inside! Ok, so I hear people saying that CCSoQ still is the 'best' weaopon for a PvP werewolf. Well, take a look at this. Lets assume, that both weapon are perfect. And lets say you used Gore Rider and Highlords for a total of 45% Deadly Strike (30% from HL and 15% from GR): Caduceus: 37-43 damage (40 avg), perfect would be 240% + 3x 40% + Lo rune. Listed damage on the Caddy would be 184 average Cryptic Sword: 5-77 damage (41 avg), perfect would be 300% + 3x 40% Listed damage on the CCSoQ would be 213 average Griswold's, (30% DS [HL] + 15% DS [GR] + 20% DS [Lo] = 65% DS): 40 damage * (100% + 360%) * (100% + 65% DS) = 303.6 damage average CCSoQ, (30% DS [HL] + 15% DS [GR] = 45% DS): 41 damage * (100% + 420%) * (100% + 45% DS) = 309.14 damage average So the damage on the weapon are about the same, when including Deadly Strike. Still the CCSoQ wins slightly. Lets try and calculate all this for a real druid. A real PvP WW has about 1000% ED total and lets say that he has +120 Max damage from charms. Take a look at this: Total damage (Perfect Griswold's): (40 damage * (100% + 360%) + 120 damage / 2) * 1000% ED * (100% + 65% DS) = 244 * 10 * 1,65 = 4026 damage average per hit. Total damage (Perfect CCSoQ): (41 damage * (100% + 420%) + 120 damage / 2) * 1000% ED * (100% + 45% DS) = 273.22 * 10 * 1,45 = 3961.4 damage average per hit. The prefect Griswold's Caduceus also beats the Perfect CCSoQ in these aspects: - Damage is way more steady - Less Str and Dex requirements - Its probably easier to find a such weapon on Europe where there are litterally no CCSoQs - The caddy is probably also cheaper to buy and the ED% doesn't vary that much, so you're more likely to get a good one. This is why I say 1.10 Griswolds is better than the CCSoQ. Please cast me into the Pit and poke me with sticks, if I made any mistakes in my calculations. Uhm, also feel free to throw your empty beer can or other beverage containers at me, if this is nothing new to you at all and/or I completely wasted your time.