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PvP Widowmaker Pally?

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by Calizzar, Sep 29, 2006.

  1. Calizzar

    Calizzar IncGamers Member

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    PvP Widowmaker Pally?

    Could a PvP bow pally with widowmaker work?

    wep: perfect eth zod'd widowmaker
    armor: fort ds // enigma ds // duress ds
    helm: ber/40/15 coa
    gloves: draculs
    boots: gores
    belt: verdungo's
    ring: bk
    ring: raven
    ammy: highlords
    switch: 6 bo cta // spirit
    Inventory: anni, ptorch, 4 5 fhr/5 res sc's. 3 20 life/5 res sc's, 30 3/20/20's

    Item to consider: Giant Skull Bone Visage. Knockback might help against smiters/chargers and other melee.

    Goals:

    -4k life
    -4k max damage with fort
    -3k max damage with enigma
    -50% fhr (5 frame bp) with nigma/fort
    -90% fhr (4 frame bp) with duress
    -75% deadly strike
    -35% open wounds with nigma/fort
    -68% open wounds with duress
    -9 fpa attack (max you can get on pally with bow)

    i would also love to get some amd damage somewhere
     
  2. Calizzar

    Calizzar IncGamers Member

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    The cool thing is i only need fanatacism so i can make him a charger too.

    I also can put on a eth perfect lacerator and get 5k throws.
     
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    Evrae Altana IncGamers Member

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    Good luck finding that. Bows cannot be ethereal.
     
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    Kiba IncGamers Member

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    It might make a good anti caster build.

    maybe load up on elemental damage sc's and poison sc's and get a crafted Open wound belt.
     
  5. Calizzar

    Calizzar IncGamers Member

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    Oh silly me. Well then i can get a perfect one and 40/15 it, which gives me 3323 max damage at 9 fpa with guided arrow. and then i dont have to put that 40/15 in helm.

    and with 75% deadly strike, thats 6646 dmg, which is 1129 after PvP penalty. So sorcs will be dead in a couple hits. Against people with 50% dr, thats still 564 damage per hit, and it "always hits."

    I figure fort will be the best armor for the most part, since i dont have any fcr for tele. Duress would be for the open wounds, but i dont know how effective that is with ranged weapons in pvp.
     
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    nickedoff IncGamers Member

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    How did you calculate that?

    It isn't as good as it sounds. Make it and see.

    Edit - Oh, I just noticed the 32020s. Much luck getting those. x_x
     
  7. Calizzar

    Calizzar IncGamers Member

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    ya. Perfect ed with 40 more is 240 on widowmaker. The base weapon damage is 59. So that translates into 200 weapon damage. Plus 90 from 30 3/20/20s. Thats 290.

    Then a lvl 27-29 fanat, hopefully 200 dex, and 300 from fort.

    And then ill be getting deadly strike 75% of the time.

    Now i need a form of amp damage. I know there is gavel of pain you can put on switch. But ill have my cta and spirit for life. So where else can i get amp?

    And i was thinking of having a perfect eth lacerator with that shield with 350-400% ed in stash. I can use this against melee with good holy shield for 75% block and much more defense. And lacerator gets amp damage.

    And then i can charge some.

    I could also put a ebotd tm on switch with bow and get a like 30k damage charge.

    So i think ill max fanat and maybe 10-15 into holy shield.

    Basically, the question is where to put skill points. Charge/vigor/might? smite? Zeal/sacrafice?
     
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    nickedoff IncGamers Member

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    Do you have all those 32020s yet?
     
  9. Calizzar

    Calizzar IncGamers Member

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    no. i have enough sojs though. i plan to find trades via dtrades or something.
     
  10. zeiris

    zeiris IncGamers Member

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    Resists? Too lazy to check your charms math, sorry if I'm wrong :p

    Imo, you need a) survivability b) a non-range attack skill. How will you deal with a charger or WWbarb of any kind? Arrows and charge fill too similar a niche to make a useful hybrid, imho... Kinda like going lightning+fireball, but with the same element type. Hammers are well-known for being great even with "low" (ie non-16K) damage and counter the exact kind of chars that will be problematic for you - WWbarbs, smiter/chargers.

    Smiter hybrid is an option too - maxed fanat anyways... Dunno enough about smiters to talk about how smite/GA synergises though. Other crazy hybrids are probably possible - zeal, foh (4T shield = no block unless they use a jmod) ... Throw? lol, get some crazy eth cruel replenishing IAS spears and you get a 2 frame max block switch that still deals out damage with a spatula.

    Bowzons will be a problem for the hammerdin. WW barbs for the smiter. All I can think of...

    Idea: I saw a bowdin use vigor once. Knowing how screwy weapon switching is, that may be a good idea for quick dodging when combined with enigma/40FRW boots/maybe catseye/whatever. Also, hammer synergy!!
     
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    nickedoff IncGamers Member

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    I don't know of your experience, but from mine, WW barbs have a big problem with bow characters...especially when they can move fast.
     
  12. Calizzar

    Calizzar IncGamers Member

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    Here's a teleport setup i've been thinking about:

    Goals:

    -2300+ damage (before deadly strike and amp damage)
    -4000+ life
    -4 frame fhr (90% fhr from gear)
    -10 frame fcr (80% fcr from gear)
    -75% deadly strike
    -9 fpa attack

    Weapon: Widowmaker with 40/15 // gavel of pain
    Armor: Enigma DS
    Helm: 08 Valk with Um
    Gloves: Trang's
    Boots: Gore Riders
    Belt: Arachnids
    Ring: Raven
    Ring: Rare 10% fcr ring with resists
    Ammy: Highlords
    Inventory: anni, ptorch, combination of fhr/res all/life/max damage in charms

    Prebuff:

    Weapon: 6 BO CtA
    Armor: Enigma DS
    Shield: Spirit Monarch
    Helm: Shako
    Belt: Arachnids
    Ring: SoJ
    Ring: SoJ
    Ammy: Mara's
    and an Anni, for a total of a level 20 BO. Then maybe Wisp Projector or whatever that ring is for level 5 oak sage.

    Problem is, i can't find spots to put resists.
     
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    WO WO , hold on just a second here......
    did u just say ETH zod'd widow maker??:shocked: ?????!!!!!!!!! :shocked:

    ur res/dr are gonna be really low = this is gonna kill just as many people as an aura sorc....(not many at all!)
     
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    Calizzar IncGamers Member

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    Well, my inventory could look like this:

    -Anni
    -PTorch
    -25 20 life/5 resists SCs
    -2 3/20/20 SCs
    -10 3/20/5 fhr SCs

    This plus 15 res/7 fhr jewel in valk gives me almost maxed resists in hell.

    So i would shoot at 9 fpa, have a 4 frame fhr, 10 frame fcr tele, 105% fr/w, and somewhere around 2000 max damage.

    Now i don't have any PDR, but i'll have a ber/ber CoA in stash as well as verdungos, which is 46%, if i feel i need it against certain opponents.

    With amp damage on my opponent from gavel of pain, as well 75% deadly strike, i'll be able to kill my fair share of people... or so i think lol
     
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    *you can shoot a guided arrow, run and hit weapon switch with lacerator & say lanceguard {deadly strike shield}. If the arrow hits the guy then the modes from the current weapon/shield are used instead of the bow {losses the bows deadly, but gains amp + open wounds + shields deadly}.

    Old zon trick, still works i think.
     
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    You should read the ranger build guide. It is a pally with bow and aura. I build one with lvl 38 holy shock + widow maker. It gets 8k damage from bow along with 1-2k from aura pulses. I switched to grief most of the time as it hits lots faster, does more physical damage and I can use a shield.

    It would be better to use conviction aura for -150 to resists, 2 dreams for lvl 30 holy shock, max resist lightning for seriouse holy shock damage and widowmaker.
     
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    Calizzar IncGamers Member

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    I picked fanaticism over holy shock because with holy shock i have no way of lowering their resists, and fanaticism is much faster.
     

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