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Pvp WF > Faith for bowazon

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  1. discordian

    discordian Diabloii.Net Member

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    Pvp WF > Faith for bowazon

    This is a quote from another forum. Is this true? If it is, why does everyone go with faith? the gears i use are 120/45(45ias), cats eye(30ias), ias(20ias) with other useful mods crafted gloves, Noils belt(10ias). If i use WF with a 15ias/40ed, will i be doing more dmg with 7 fps GA?
     
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    Um...which part is a quote? Can you use the
     
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    Fanat's (and other skill based) IAS is different than item IAS, for some reason (ask the programmers why). My WF needs 120 IAS total for 2 frame strafe, while a faith GMB needs 40, even with crappy fanat. The higher break points are similar, but I don't know them since I don't PvP. I am pretty sure though, that you are not going to reach 7 frame with WF. And +str/+dex does NOT get added to weapon base damage. Finally, max damage=nothing. Average damage is what counts.
     
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    I'm not going to be using strafe. Just GA and Multi. My helm has 45% IAS, 20% IAS from gloves, 10% IAS from belt, 20% IAS from amulet, and 35% IAS Windforce. That is 130% IAS total from all those gears. I'm not sure if IAS works the same way with GA and strafe but will 130% IAS with windforce be enough for 7fps GA? I only use strafe for PVM which I never do since i mf with either a necro or sorc. :jig:



     
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    I kind of don't like german, and by that I mean the language, its just noting for me, but I have to recognize, they make a very good weapon speed calculator.

    http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/weaponspeed.php?lang=english

    I assume that it is correct or at least somewhere near correct. You need about 200% IAS to get the 7 frame GA with a hydra bow. So that's why people use faith, and because it frees some slot to put other gear on, gear you need.

    May they keep on improving their programming skills.
     
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    discordian Diabloii.Net Member

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    o, I thought the IAS was much lower for WF. One last thing im worried about is does the poison damage and lightning damage really take out critical strike? If it does why does javazons put into critical strike? All there main damage comes from lightning. I have some pdsc but if it means i lose double damage then i dont think its worth it. Some guide says it doesnt take out critical but many people also said it does. Does anyone have a real proof on how it really works?
     
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    Poison damage doesnt make any difference to crit strike, just that the double damage doesnt apply to poison and other elements.

    I think the rumor started because if you have a high amount of psn dmg and quite low physical dmg, then crit wont look like it does much despite the high dmg you see on your character screen. Also i think psn and other elemental dmg cancels the crit strike animation, so it doesnt look like it triggers. However ive never even seen the animation myself.
     
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    The thing is, 9/2 is a much easier break point than 7 frame. If it takes that much to reach 9/2, reaching 7 frame is going to be a lot more (which the post above says 200).



     
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    the german calc says with lvl 12 fanaticusm aura (Assumimg you get a low roll)
    you need 100% ias until you reach 7fps with the GMB
     
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    Dacar92 Community, Amazon, DH Moderator & Inc Clan Officer

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    Yes, that's much better. Also, I laugh at the way my
     
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    You can hit 7 frame with WF, but iirc it requires the use of a faith act 1 merc. Im sure its in a guide or a sticky or some not to far off thread...

    -BLoke :smug:
     
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    just to pick up on what wirly said,
    EIAS is the mod actually used to calulate the break points
    any IAS is converted to EIAS before hand,
    however there are some EIAS floating around anyways these come in the form of skills such as BoS and Fanat (not sure about frenzy etc) and also WSM are also in EAIS form.
    therefore faith gives a min of 31 EIAS which equates to alot more IAS
     
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    Yes, I know, since I am using that now. But in PvP, there is no faith merc.



     

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