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PvP Charger/Smiter Help

Discussion in 'Paladin' started by Trypnotik, Mar 27, 2005.

  1. Trypnotik

    Trypnotik Diabloii.Net Member

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    PvP Charger/Smiter Help

    I want to make one of these...but I'm not sure about what skills to use... =\

    First of all...this is build even viable for PvP?? I haven't played for 9-10 months and my knowledge of D2 is not as sharp.

    This is what I was thinking so far:

    20 Smite
    20 Charge
    20 Concentration or Fant (help here)
    10 Vigor
    10 Holy Shield
    08 Pre-req

    Bless Aim? maybe? (help here)
     
  2. Tastychiken_europe

    Tastychiken_europe Diabloii.Net Member

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    on the aura i would go Fanaticism, it gives u speed and u need it.

    the only answer i can really answer, im writing a guide for throw/smtie right now :D and dont got the "Skills" of doing a smiter.

    Sorry.

    //cheers Tasty
     
  3. Trypnotik

    Trypnotik Diabloii.Net Member

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    tnx for ur input. if anyone hav anything more to add...please reply.

    tnx.
     
  4. MasterMoonlight

    MasterMoonlight Banned

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    hey

    this was my season 1 set up and it worked 80 percetn of the times i had troubles with some hammerdins (whcih alot of people do) the gear i had was this

    berber coa
    astreons (smite) eth death cleaver (charge)
    eth vortex exile or zak
    20ias gloves
    verdunos
    bk ring or soj have other aborsb rings for those pesky trapsins ect
    highlords for deadly and ias
    eth treks
    10 pally combat gcs 2 fhr to break the fhr point
    1 anni
    rest in little charms u might need

    as for skills this is how i did it

    20smite
    20fant
    20charge
    20holy shield
    10might
    10vigor
    rest is preresiquet

    those darn casters usually died within a few charge hits most of the time with 1. but with season 2 out i havent had the oppertunity to test the grief runeword from what i get it gives more dmg than the astreons and gives a better average dmg for charge. i could be wrong. im in the middle of my season 2 smiter/charger. my primary is the grief. if i dont think it does that good then i go back to the astreons eth death cleaver way ill keep u guys updated.
     
  5. rare

    rare Diabloii.Net Member

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    I tried a throw/smite. I'm the butt of every joke whenver someone mentions a throw paladin. It was THAT bad >_<

    It's too hard to get enough AR while keeping decent smite/throw damage, and then to try to juggle the +skills that smiters need makes it even more difficult.

    but good luck !
    ~~
    As for the smite/charger, I suppose you don't know about the charge bug since you havent played in months.

    Whenever you quickly switch to smite while in the charge animation, your character will get stuck right there, and you'll have to switch weapons back and forth to have any hope of surviving. Sometimes even that doesn't do it, and you're just standing there, pressing every button to no avail, and you'll be a big target.

    I have a smite/foh, and even then it gets annoying; i can't use charge that much because i'll get stuck, won't be able to smite half the time, and by then you have someone that tele'd on you, and you're dead.

    But maybe if you get used to it it's not so bad since Master didn't mention anything about it :eek:
     
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    dkay Diabloii.Net Member

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    just some warnings of this build:

    charge bug is a pain
    damage looks great on paper but executing the damage is a different story.
    this build on the lower end of the pvp chain so itll be a hard challenge.
     
  7. Tastychiken_europe

    Tastychiken_europe Diabloii.Net Member

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    Well rare the smite is there to enoy ppl to make them go offensive and when they do so i throw at them with knockback and slow with some lacerators or something + they get stunned beacuse of the stunlenght. and u got to walk in to combat with him, your greatest resources are your defensive capabilities you know. and that ar problem... get trang belt and a angelic set duuuude :D
     
  8. Trypnotik

    Trypnotik Diabloii.Net Member

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    hmmm...would the angelic set work wit charger/smiters?

    bahh grief is so hard to find =] im poor so yah
     
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    Angelic set works for charge (u need AR), but not for smite (u dun need AR). IMO dump angelic combo and get ur AR else where.
    Eg. demon limb(enchants charges)
     
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    definitely fanaticism, as it gives IAS and gives more ED than concentrate.
     
  11. Trypnotik

    Trypnotik Diabloii.Net Member

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    Okay...this is what I'm aiming for:

    Skills:

    20 Smite
    20 Charge
    20 Holy Shield
    20 Fanaticism
    10 Vigor
    8 Pre-req

    I should be done at 86...this is just what I am aiming for ..any more skills will be put on Vigor.

    Gear:

    Helm - suggest(BerBer CoA is not obtainable right now)
    Weapon - Death Cleaver / Astreon's
    Shield - Upped HoZ
    Armor - suggest (CoH hopefully if i can get...is there a cheaper option for now?)
    Rings - BK ring and Ravenfrost/Wisp
    Ammy - Highlord's or if I can find pally ammy
    Gloves - Pally glove wit 20% ias
    Belt - Verdungo's
    Boots - Trek or Gore Rider?
     
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    rare Diabloii.Net Member

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    blah if youre just gonna use amp and slow for the easier win, just make a hammerdin and tele on top and/or desynch...
     
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    Trypnotik Diabloii.Net Member

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    so guys? any suggestion to a 2nd option helm since i cant get BerBer CoA?
     
  14. Locke07

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    The vanqisher is a build I have come to love. It is possiable to make one off ladder but it shines when it can get its hands on a greif which is a ladder only item. An alternative is astreons but it still isnt as good as a grief. I suggest you use a V/T meaning smite/foh instead of charge. Charge is quite buggy and is used only to kill flighty characters such as sorces and necro's which have low life meaning a 1 to 2 hit KO.

    Skills

    20-fantasism- Max first great skill for lvling up and add dmg and speed
    20-Holy Shield-Max second more usefull then smite itself
    20-smite- the next on your list
    Now you have trouble here

    Holy shock, FoH, and conviction: You must calculate what you need depending on ur plus skills I put 1 point into conviction and used plus skills and 1 offensive aura GC's to get convic to lvl 25 (cheaper then Combats) The Foh proves more usefull than a maxed charge which 1 point into is fine. Your choice though... and I am working on writing a V/T guide oriented for dueling so if any one wants to add some imput please message me.

    Locke- Hopes and dreams are a thing of the past.
     
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    Tastychiken_europe Diabloii.Net Member

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    Locke if i dont remember it wrong from the palla FAQ's it is Smite/hammer that is called a Vanquisher.

    And rare i didnt mean it that way just so you know but im saying if u have a hard time agaisnt lame cookie cutter builds then use that smite and go for easy kills, it is funny to see them naging about "I cant moove, cheater".
    But most of the time u should be throwing or u built your thrower wrong in my means :). and for the second part if u use smite more it is an advantage beacuse u can start throw at them if they run, and if u throw u have the advantage of range and knockback wich is healthy when fighting hammerdins isnt it rare?? i didnt really mean to offend u :) but then this build could work out to be real lame with cleglaws, nosferatus and hoz, with a healthy dose of ds% and Ow%.
     
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    Locke07 Diabloii.Net Member

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    Yah your right, I get the names mixed up I ment Vindicator Sorry.
     
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    its not a big deal one times i mixed up a Judicator and a Liberator ! :p there you have some seriuos problems...
     

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