PVP Bowazon

thorsa

Diabloii.Net Member
PVP Bowazon

i am going to try to make a versitile PVP Bowazon

just some questions on stats and points

118 str then all dex and does dex effect damage or just AR?

20 Critical strike
20 Guided Arrow
12+ dodge/aviod/avade
1 penetrate

Gear

Gothic or Balista Bow

Blood fist gloves

Angelic rings amulet

twitch armour

goblin toe boots

howltusk helm

please advise

thanks
 

WarlockCC

Diablo Classic Moderator
Dex does boost the damage by 1% per point in dex :
http://www.diabloii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=148&cat=512

Here's a Balista IAS table for a amazon with normal(GA shoots at normal attack speed) attack :
IAS Frames per Attack
0 % 22
3 % 21
7 % 20
11 % 19
19 % 18
27 % 17
37 % 16
50 % 15
70 % 14
95 % 13
138 % 12
215 % 11

Even though the damage can be high, I wouldn't advise a balista for GA. It works well for strafe, but that's about it.

And a Goth bow IAS bp table for zon with normal attack :
IAS Frames per Attack
0 % 15
5 % 14
11 % 13
22 % 12
35 % 11
56 % 10
89 % 9
147 % 8
292 % 7

Maybe get deaths belt if you don't want to get cold slowed.
And you may want to get some ml and ll from somewhere.
 

thorsa

Diabloii.Net Member
Dex does boost the damage by 1% per point in dex :
http://www.diabloii.net/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=148&cat=512

Here's a Balista IAS table for a amazon with normal(GA shoots at normal attack speed) attack :
IAS Frames per Attack
0 % 22
3 % 21
7 % 20
11 % 19
19 % 18
27 % 17
37 % 16
50 % 15
70 % 14
95 % 13
138 % 12
215 % 11

Even though the damage can be high, I wouldn't advise a balista for GA. It works well for strafe, but that's about it.

And a Goth bow IAS bp table for zon with normal attack :
IAS Frames per Attack
0 % 15
5 % 14
11 % 13
22 % 12
35 % 11
56 % 10
89 % 9
147 % 8
292 % 7

Maybe get deaths belt if you don't want to get cold slowed.
And you may want to get some ml and ll from somewhere.

thanks man

got ml on balista already 4% will ll work from a ring with bow or only melee attacks and what dont quite understand what effect fpa has



 

goomba

Diabloii.Net Member
thanks man

got ml on balista already 4% will ll work from a ring with bow or only melee attacks and what dont quite understand what effect fpa has
isn't it essentially 25 frames per second? therefore, if you get under 13 fpa you are essentially attacking 2x per second. e.g. strafers would get off two full 10 shot strafe volleys per second



 

danbus

Diabloii.Net Member
If you are going with a PvP bowzon. Use a rune with 20ias. A goth is good vs barbs and zons, but vs pallys/sorcs/necs you need the better FPS to keep them in check.
 

zaxien

Diabloii.Net Member
for ballista I would only go for a 150+ dam -30 req one...if not you get better stats off of a goth or rune
 

WarlockCC

Diablo Classic Moderator
It's nice to advise lots of equip he doesn't have, but why not in stead help him make the best zon possible with the bow he has ?
Often I build a char around a weapon, I like that, it links the weapon to the char and gives me some advantages and disadvantages of the weapon to learn to work with. rather then saying "you should get a 20ias 200ed +14 min +20 max -30 req fire and ice damage runebow", you could just aswell say "make a hammerdin".
Diablo isn't just about the powerbuilds.
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Now, back to the actual questions at hand.
yes, lifeleech works fine with your bow if it's on a ring, or on 2 sigons, or a helm, anywhere on your gear.
4ml is more then enough, so your mana is definately covered. Don't get discouraged if, at the beginning, it doesn't seem like you are getting enough mana back. Once you get to 200 or so dex you should have sufficient mana.

As explained by Goomba, there are 25 frames per second in Diablo 2.
If it says 13 frames per attack, you will shoot, then 13 frames (alightly more then half a second) will pass and then you will shoot again if you still have the button pressed, then another 13 frames will pass and you shoot again, and so on.
With strafe, you can hit the 4 fpa breakpoint with the balista with 50 ias. So twitch and deaths will be enough to get that breakpoint. It really makes you fire like a turret. Though for Strafe, you need AR. if you go the GA way, you won't need AR and indeed, GA is far better suited for PvP then Strafe is.
Strafe is just very easy to avoid in pvp, because the attack is liniar. The arrows will not follow a target, so if they miss, they are useless.
You should be able to squeeze about 350-600 damage per GA hit at least out of your Balista, which means about 60-100 physical pvp damage. This may not seem like much, but it's more then enough if you combine it with Crushing Blow.
I say go for it, get her to a descent level before you actually judge her, since she won't be a instant killer from the get-go. She really needs some levels first.
 

thorsa

Diabloii.Net Member
It's nice to advise lots of equip he doesn't have, but why not in stead help him make the best zon possible with the bow he has ?
Often I build a char around a weapon, I like that, it links the weapon to the char and gives me some advantages and disadvantages of the weapon to learn to work with. rather then saying "you should get a 20ias 200ed +14 min +20 max -30 req fire and ice damage runebow", you could just aswell say "make a hammerdin".
Diablo isn't just about the powerbuilds.
---===---
Now, back to the actual questions at hand.
yes, lifeleech works fine with your bow if it's on a ring, or on 2 sigons, or a helm, anywhere on your gear.
4ml is more then enough, so your mana is definately covered. Don't get discouraged if, at the beginning, it doesn't seem like you are getting enough mana back. Once you get to 200 or so dex you should have sufficient mana.

As explained by Goomba, there are 25 frames per second in Diablo 2.
If it says 13 frames per attack, you will shoot, then 13 frames (alightly more then half a second) will pass and then you will shoot again if you still have the button pressed, then another 13 frames will pass and you shoot again, and so on.
With strafe, you can hit the 4 fpa breakpoint with the balista with 50 ias. So twitch and deaths will be enough to get that breakpoint. It really makes you fire like a turret. Though for Strafe, you need AR. if you go the GA way, you won't need AR and indeed, GA is far better suited for PvP then Strafe is.
Strafe is just very easy to avoid in pvp, because the attack is liniar. The arrows will not follow a target, so if they miss, they are useless.
You should be able to squeeze about 350-600 damage per GA hit at least out of your Balista, which means about 60-100 physical pvp damage. This may not seem like much, but it's more then enough if you combine it with Crushing Blow.
I say go for it, get her to a descent level before you actually judge her, since she won't be a instant killer from the get-go. She really needs some levels first.


thanks for that Warlock, all i need to find now is death set :grin:

here is a picture of bow i will be using at lvl 40 im only lvl 32 at moment

http://img501.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot002ng6.jpg

no the best damage but all i have :)



 

zaxien

Diabloii.Net Member
It's nice to advise lots of equip he doesn't have, but why not in stead help him make the best zon possible with the bow he has ?
Often I build a char around a weapon, I like that, it links the weapon to the char and gives me some advantages and disadvantages of the weapon to learn to work with. rather then saying "you should get a 20ias 200ed +14 min +20 max -30 req fire and ice damage runebow", you could just aswell say "make a hammerdin".
Diablo isn't just about the powerbuilds.
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All I was saying is his bow is NOT what he should build a pvp zon around a
7x-8x rune or a 8x-9x goth would be better suited for it because of the slow speed and high req of a ballista. Both of which bows are very easily found or imbued. BUT if you must make a zon around this particular bow I would go like most everyone else has said. For pvp gear use min dam ar res rings, +skill(notneeded) mindam dex pris ammy, twitch, deaths sash+belt, and your choice of gobtoes, treads of cthon(for necs and other bowas), or some nice high r/w res boots with dex hopefully.



 

WarlockCC

Diablo Classic Moderator
hehe, Danbus > you meant rune bow, he thought you meant one of those LoD runes you can stick into a socket of a item. :)
I don't know many runes(stone LoDy things), but of the ones I do know, I don't recall one with 20ias on it. I think there is one with 15ias though.

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