PvP Basics..?

CdMagicFind

CdMagicFind

Diabloii.Net Member
PvP Basics..?

=x Nub, I know.

Sort of need a run-down on characters. This is pretty much what I'm thinking.. The first group should be the "best".


Bone Necro
BvC
WW/Trapper
Hammy
Smiter

Others -
ES Sorc
Bowazon
Ghost
Windy
FoH
Other paladin variants


So basically I need some help deciding on a character. I was thinking one of the first group but I don't really know.. I want to be able to ladder climb as well but that's not necessary I guess. (E/S/L bottom ladder is 97 paly, 96-95 sin/ama/barb/sorc, 94 druid/nec)

I was thinking bone in particular.. Does anyone know much about block in PvP? Sort of wondering what set-up for the nec and all. I posted a topic in the nec section asking for advice there but I'm guessing here might be better.

Any general information helps. Did I miss a guide or something? Because I don't think there's any non-specific PvP guide.. Oh, and am I missing something in damage? Hammerdins out-damage everybody, right? But I didn't know by that much..
 
Uncle_Mike

Uncle_Mike

D2 PvP Moderator
Welcome to the PvP forum :wave:

Hmm, where do I begin :smiley:...

1. Check our guides sticky (link can also be found in my sig) - you will find all the necro information you need there.

2. There is no "best pvp char" - hammerdins are a strong class but they also have their archrivals and weaknesses...a well played hammer is a threat but the same can be said about many other classes - it's a matter of skill and gear.
 
CdMagicFind

CdMagicFind

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=]...

Ah, I only looked in the necro section. =/ I'll check back soon about that.

And.. I know there's no "best". I was just thinking of.. say.. the first two "tiers"?

Edit:

=x.. Those were the ones in the necro section. I was just asking for more information. ._.. They seem to advocate max block a lot. Oh well, I guess I might have to either live with that or pick another class. (h8 on max block dex numbers and rare inconsistency)
 
DayDream

DayDream

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A zeal sorc can kill all of the above except for sorcs >< Consider making that one. =P Rare,creative, strong and fun :D

If I have to choose then wwtrapper/bvc seem to dominate the pub.
 
HappyAssassin

HappyAssassin

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If you are gonna have an account that deals well with everything, you need 2 chars. Bone Necro and BvC works pretty well, so does WW/Trapper and Hammerdin. If you pk with a friend you should use chars that complement each other well, such as necro + windy, necro + bvc, hdin + zon, trapper + windy. T/V + WW/Trap is a good combo too because of conviction and good all around damage.
 
Uncle_Mike

Uncle_Mike

D2 PvP Moderator
CdMagicFind said:
=]...

Ah, I only looked in the necro section. =/ I'll check back soon about that.

And.. I know there's no "best". I was just thinking of.. say.. the first two "tiers"?

Edit:

=x.. Those were the ones in the necro section. I was just asking for more information. ._.. They seem to advocate max block a lot. Oh well, I guess I might have to either live with that or pick another class. (h8 on max block dex numbers and rare inconsistency)
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Most of the characters that you listed would work, which one works best for you is personal preference.

Feel free to experiment with a non block char - once you come across a competent melee char (bvc, ww sin/hybrid to name just two) you will have an opportunity to reconsider your decision.



 
CdMagicFind

CdMagicFind

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Ah.

Hm, I already have a 94 Hammy and Trapper. But they're PvM builds. =x (hammy is HS, trapper is pure trapper) But that is interesting though. I might do that to cover up all the types.

Well, I guess I could go Hammerdin/Trapper again if necro block bothers me that much? I really wanted a ladder character though so I might go necro. What about BvC's? I don't really know anything about them.

Gear
Would Wiz, White, or HotO work better?

And for the ammy (I'm assuming it needs FCR no matter what), would I go 3P&B/10 or 2/15+?

Shield, SS or Homunc or Spirit (vita build)?

Skillers or resist and life SC's?

(Just going for a consensus here.. The HDin one for example seems to be Wiz, 2/20, Spirit, resist life charms)
 
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poroboszcz

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Imho bone necro is the easiest character to play from those you've mentionedm while hammerdin and assasin can be pretty hard to master. Also good ww/trapper can be incredibly expensive to build.

You can duel with your pvm chars as well just to get some basics. I've been dueling a lot with pvm chars before I started to make some strictly pvp builds and it's very instructive experience. You will know what weakneses you should cover and you will gain some skills. If your hammer doesn't have max block atm, after some dueling you will know why you should aim for it in pvp build :azn:

GL
 
Camden

Camden

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If it's your first pvp build don't go with a bvc. They require some indepth knowlege of pvp and can be frustrating to learn if you're new.

Necs are fairly easy to learn on. Basic spirit spamming is simple, then you can progress to the cool **** like spear sniping, stomping, and running.

Ele druids are also very good to learn on.

Afaik there's one decent max block nec guide in the nec forum, it might be a good idea to check it out.
 
CdMagicFind

CdMagicFind

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Ah, cool. I guess I'll go with a boner for sure. (tehe)

I've done that before. I went PvPing with my FCR PvM sin. She did all right except against I think.. a WW/Trapper and a FB sorc of the ones I remember. Maybe a Bowa if I remember right. Also, my hammy has block.. What paly doesn't? I was debating it for necros, not paly's..
 
mythos

mythos

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ThatWasShockin said:
If you do a boner go max block with homo, you will regret it if you don't.
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I disagree. Go max block with SS. You'll regret it if you don't:wink3: Especially, when a windy kills you in 2 nado's. Windies can be hard enough without making life easy for them by having very low DR.



 
CdMagicFind

CdMagicFind

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You all know it was a joke (or so I think), right? Boner with homo?

I guess I'll go max-block SS. I can easily afford the lifers and all, because I've mainly been playing MF-HDin this season. Can anyone tweak this build anymore or not?

"2. Block Setup
2/20/2 Shael Shael circ
Enigma
Hoto
Cham Stormshield (vs. druids) Jah/Ber in Stash
10 FCR/24FHR/stats/life crafted belt
2x FCR/stats/life/res rings
Trangs gloves
FHR/stats/tri-res boots
2nec/15+fcr/stats/life/res amulet
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130 FCR
86 FHR with 1* 5fhr sc (20fhr boots) or 1* 12fhr pnb (10fhr boots)
43% DR (>50% with Ber SS)
CBF for vs. druids
Good life
Good damage
Oak sage charges"


EDIT

Well, I'm pretty sure 20 FHR is NL only or something. So.. Question mark on all of that.
 
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ThatWasShockin

Banned
Ok, either shield works, ss for when you need dr(windies). On other chars you can recast bone armor. And yea it was a bit of a joke putting homo and boner together =).
 
CdMagicFind

CdMagicFind

Diabloii.Net Member
I could go Vita set-up for that I guess.

Yeah, I guess I'll just have to wait for whether or not these are twinkable.

But in the mean time, could someone explain to me why Necros don't use SC resist stacking and instead use skillers? Paly's use resist stacking usually. I'm guessing.. damage needs? Yeah, total PvP nub, I know. . - .

Edit - Oh, and what does CBF do for a Necro? Just r/w, right?

"1. Vita Setup
Ber shako
Enigma
Hoto
35 Spirit
Verdungos
1x Fcr/stats/life/res ring
1x Raven Frost
Trangs gloves
FHR/stats/tri-res boots
2nec/20fcr/stats/life/res amulet
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125 FCR
86 FHR with 1* 5fhr sc (20fhr boots) or 1* 12fhr pnb (10fhr boots)
41% DR
CBF for vs. druids
Good life
Good damage
Oak sage charges"
 
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