PVM HC Barb: BvC or BvB? There's been so much talk about PVP and Barbs lately that I'm having a tough time finding up to date advice on making a PVM Barb. Believe it or not, the only character I've NEVER made is a Barb. I've been messing around in single player, trying different builds, and been loving one. First off, I play HC. Second, I'm not "rich" at all. Nevertheless, I can get my hands on some good equipment like Enigma. Third, I'd like to have some MF on the char for doing Meph/Baal/Pit runs. Fourth, it's important that I am able to help people (rushing, boss killing). So what would be the best type of Barb to make? From what I've learned messing around with one in single player: 20 WW 20 BO 20 Mastery (which, I'm not sure) These ones cannot be changed. I find them imperative and fun. So that leaves me with about 40 points. I can either max 2 other skills, or put a combo of points in. Option 1: 20 Leap, 20 Shout. I liked leap A LOT in when solo'ing. Sometimes when you get big groups of guys and WW through them, you hit each one once but it takes tons of passes to kill any. With Leap, however, I could Leap a few times, seperate the pack, and kill stragglers quickly, taking less damage and killing the pack faster. It also helped a lot when I needed to use Beserk to kill PIs: I could leap to the PIs, knock back the melee enemies, use Beserk, then short leap again while my defense is 0 to knock back the melees again. 20 Shout helps with the 1-pt wonder Beserk as well. Option 2: 20 Shout, 20 Iron Skin. More defense, less being hit. Again Shout helps with Beserk damage. Probably a better build for 2 weapons. Option 3: something I don't see? Now, what about weapons? From what I gather from PVP, axes are the way to go. Should I go axe + shield, or 2 axes? I had a tough time telling from single player which to go (probably because I had uber gear). It sure took a lot longer to kill things with a shield, and I leached a lot less. Plus, don't you hit more with 2 weapons? Anyways, help me out! I appreciate it.