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PvM: fury or maul?

Discussion in 'Druid' started by dsong, Feb 6, 2004.

  1. dsong

    dsong IncGamers Member

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    PvM: fury or maul?

    which is better at PvM in hell, a fury ww or a mauler wb?
     
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    VictusMetuo IncGamers Member

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    First Druid: WW

    Later Druids: Which ever you are best at
     
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    Æ’enris Banned

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    for new players ww is best but if you know what you're doing its even.
    My level 17werebear has 600 life with no charms though, I like ^^
     
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    Uriah_Heep IncGamers Member

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    Absolutely even.My mauler kills DC very fast.
     
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    Burnt_toasty IncGamers Member

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    I agree. Both are kinda even. The Werewolf fury is easier to accomplish versus a bear. But the bear has atiny bit of and edge over the wolf because of shockwave.


    Thats why people suggest wolves first.
     
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    Æ’enris Banned

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    Tiny bit of edge? ^^
    Shockwave > PvM, period.
     
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    Yeah, Shockwave pwns all. Fury + Feral Rage is excellent, however, and WWs have good crowd control for melee characters. Shockwave is the ultimate crowd control, though.
     
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    honestly, maul isn't so great right now. now I'm not knocking It, I'm just saying the preferred way to make a bear now would be fire claws.

    For a PvM bear you could max lycanth, bear, fireclaws, and two fire claws synergies. You would have massive defense from maxing bear. Or, if you don't prefer that, you could max maul instead, but realize that Maul is mostly useful now as a charge up skill before fire claws. Shockwave is a one point wonder for bears, allowing you to pick and choose your target at will. If you decided to just max lycanth and fire claws, you could still have shockwave and either go for oak sage or yet another fire claws synergy. And you will still benefit from maul doing stun. But since fire immunities are often a problem, pumping maul might still be useful - but bears can really get away with 2 handed weapons much easier than anything else in the game, making them have a lot of physical damage anyhow.

    in 09 maul was the greater, in 1.1 I still say bear owns the wolf, but with more emphasis on high damage output with fire claws and 1 point investemnts into stun skills.
     
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    Æ’enris Banned

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    Max maul, max bear, max lycan, max how, then a few in shockwave ^^
    Carry a buriza on switch for phys immunes or use atmas. :)
    Huge speed of ribcracker + the crushing blow, is plenty to get you through hell when up'd.
     
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    You can get plenty of damage output for a Mauler. Maulers are as good as the players behind them.
     
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    I don't understand why people underestimate maulers that much.Shockwave is the best PvM skill and with 3x shael Tomb Reaver +Reaper's Toll merc=PvM machine.I am not speaking hypotheticaly.Anybody can ask me to help with Ancients and DC and I will demonstrate.
     
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    how about in terms of killing SPEED?

    i'm sure bears are safer
     
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    Fury wolves are better.

    GTFO bears!
     
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    My 65 bear has like 33xx-49xx maul, 5k ar, 4k def, 7fpa, 60% crushing, 2k life, with a lvl 4 wolverine.
     
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    Give that gear to Fury werewolf (and his might merc), And you'll get a pure killing machine.
     
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    Æ’enris Banned

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    Fury is > maul yes, but shockwave completely blows wolf out of the water as far as pvm.
     
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    Eh, I wrote up a Maul vs Fury comparison, both have their benefits in different ways, but then both can out-do the other in other ways.

    Anyway, I've always been able to kill fast with a Mauler.
     
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    Shockwave is definately the best defensive p v m skill in the game, but if you want offense, go with a fury wolf.
     
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    You can get a very good offense with a Bear easily if you've got Bears down.
     
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    6k+ damage with 50%+ crushing blow and a 7fpa or so attack is fairly good offense I think.
     

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