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Putting my wealth on the line: Testing cubed Hi Runes ifra

Discussion in 'Theorycrafting and Statistics' started by GandalfTheGhey, Sep 16, 2006.

  1. GandalfTheGhey

    GandalfTheGhey IncGamers Member

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    Putting my wealth on the line: Testing cubed Hi Runes

    So I decided to try and end the controversy:

    Are we or are we not safer cubing high runes ( vex+ ) together as a safeguard against them going poof on us.

    To do this I have traded for 6 Ber runes which I have cubed up to Jah.

    I have put all 3 Jah runes on a character that I am getting to 90+ ( currently level 83 ).

    I am also giving him 2 Lo runes which I got straight from trades, which I then sold and bought back from Charsi.

    I put all 5 runes in my stash in the lower left corner so as not to be disturbed by any stray clicking that might occur.

    I am going to keep track of how many games I join and what type ( pubby, private, trading ).


    I'll let you know by posting here if any of them poof on me.
     
  2. Evrae Altana

    Evrae Altana IncGamers Member

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    Care to try cubing a legit HR with a duped one and see how that goes? :tongue:
     
  3. GandalfTheGhey

    GandalfTheGhey IncGamers Member

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    If you have a rune you know is legit and one of the same type you know is duped let me know. :thumbsup:

    *EDIT* eh nvm just noticed your on Asia realm.
     
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    Merick IncGamers Member

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    Runes can poof at such random intervals, it really won't be proof if none of them poof in 6 months.
     
  5. GandalfTheGhey

    GandalfTheGhey IncGamers Member

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    They poof when you join / leave games, it has nothing to do with how many months you have them.

    If I join say 200 games with them and they are all still there it would be good enough for me.

    The runes I had that poofed, did so in just a handfull of games.
     
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    Evrae Altana IncGamers Member

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    Actually, I play West. I should really change my profile....
     
  7. GandalfTheGhey

    GandalfTheGhey IncGamers Member

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    I should probably mention: I play West Softcore Ladder.

    If you have some runes you want to gamble with let me know.
     
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    I think it would help if you have a normal (uncubed, unsold/bought, unpermed (whatever that means) rune to go with it). Sort of a control subject. If you play on US East, let me know - I have 1 I can donate to the cause (it is the only high rune I own by the way)

    Yes, this will be more of a test, then any sort of proof. But I'm glad that someone is trying.

    *sorry, just noticted that you are US West. If there's anyone that plays boh realms - I'll give up a hr (Jah, I think) on East if you can give him one on West. (not sure if anyone actually does this)
     
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    GandalfTheGhey IncGamers Member

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    Well I'm done for the day and here are my results:

    2 x Lo
    3 x Jah

    private games ( 1 player only ) - 6
    public games ( up to 8 players ) - 16
    trading games ( up to 8 players ) - 4
    Jah games ( public games trading Jah ) - 1
    Lo games ( public games trading Lo ) - 2

    total games - 29

    And no rune poofs.

    However, one of my sojs ( that I was assured was legit by the guy who traded it to me ) did just poof.

    So howabout that?

    Te be continued tommorrow.
     
  10. Evrae Altana

    Evrae Altana IncGamers Member

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    I have a few legit HRs sitting on a mule, but I don't want to risk it. :azn:
     
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    Yes, I know. It seemed like an obvious assumption that one would join about the same number of games every day, and that 6 months would mean lots of game joining. But maybe you felt the need to show how much you know about dupes and runes and perming to let that go.
     
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    TurbulentTurtle IncGamers Member

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    That's B.net for you.
     
  13. GandalfTheGhey

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    Another hard day of leveling.

    So I manage to trade for a legit soj, and then I think to myself "maybe I should use the old sell and buy back trick on my other soj just in case there is something to that".

    So I sell my other soj to charsi and instead of appearing for sale in the vendor I get "8032 sojs sold to merchants".

    Ya, I'm a moron :rolleyes:

    So I had to trade for another soj and I am back to 2 now.


    Here is my data as of today:

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    2 x Lo
    3 x Jah

    private games ( 1 player only ) - 16
    public games ( up to 8 players ) - 33
    trading games ( up to 8 players ) - 6
    Jah games ( public games trading Jah ) - 1
    Lo games ( public games trading Lo ) - 2

    total: 58 games

    All runes still there.

    My character is ** so I probably won't reach 200 games by the time he is 90. So I am going to make a new character and transfer the runes to that one.


    I would love to do this with more runes ( like 20 of each ) but I just restarted a few months ago and I am not that rich.
     
  14. Ax2Grind

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    No, no, no

    If you're really putting your wealth on the line, ask the traders on this forum to make games separately, then join each one of them - one every three minutes. They risk nothing by being in the game already, you risk entering and finding your rune gone, and when Rust Storm is run the gamemaker can count on his disappearing, but at least he has it until then.
     
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    shows nothing
    all runes you traded may have been legit or cubed themselves
     
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    True the only time it shows soemthing is if the dissapear or u do a dupe test where u rejoin again constantly like 10 times without a so called "perming" and even then i could disapear after.
     
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    yes, this can't really be used to prove or disprove anything. But if he exits and rejoins a few hundred times without loosing anything at least I'll feel a bit safer. I must admit I'm really hoping he looses the newly traded runes and keeps the cubed runes - preferably even on the same game. Of couse just loosing the SOJ, but keeping the runes is somewhat encouraging.

    *there's probably still people sitting on the server where you sold the 1 SOJ. I wonder how long they'll wait?
     
  18. Delreich

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    Actually, it can. It can prove that the methods doesn't work, if the items disappear.
    No conclusions whatsoever can be drawn from the items that stays though, since
    we 1) aren't fully sure about their origin, and 2) don't know how the poofing works.
     
  19. Ax2Grind

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    Precisely!

    So, everyone put all their runes on one character and whisper Gandalf the game name and pass. :grin:
     
  20. GandalfTheGhey

    GandalfTheGhey IncGamers Member

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    Oh cmon, 6 legit ber runes???

    Yes, maybe they have been cubed but we are trying to see if that actually works.


    If someone has a game with lots of runes they want me to join feel free to let me know.
     

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